メーリングリスト lml@lancaironline.net メッセージ #66569
差出人: andres katz <yak55m@icloud.com>
送信者: <marv@lancaironline.net>
件名: Re: [LML] Re: FW: [LML] Flaps on take-off?
日付: Thu, 15 Aug 2013 08:02:00 -0400
宛先: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Just came back from flying the IV P, early slow built heavy 2650 lbs, 91 degrees oat 40 gallons on airport altitude 460 feet 1500 foot pattern 120 kts on power off on the break (initial for those non military) break at the numbers prop fine pitch 35 degree bank landing gear down on the break flaps on turn to final I guess I should do a itube for those that say its not possible wingtips no stall devices

Practice, practice, practice 

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On Aug 14, 2013, at 6:16 PM, Robert R Pastusek <rpastusek@htii.com> wrote:

Ditto for me in my IV-P, although I do fly 1000’ pattern altitude. I expect some would object to a low-wing airplane coming down on top of a high-wing by flying a higher pattern. My only defense is that I am aware of the risk, and check especially carefully for this. I also recognize that I am most likely to hit someone in the tail, rather than vice-versa, so I consider myself “the burdened party” to see and avoid.

 

For those of you who have not practiced engine-out landings to a full stop, I encourage you to get a QUALIFIED instructor or experienced Lancair co-pilot and practice this at a suitable runway. (3,000’ is not suitable for practice, just in case this is not obvious to all… J )

 

Bob Pastusek

 

Bill,

 

Maybe I’m just a lucky guy but I regularly practice power off approaches from 800 ft AGL on downwind abeam the numbers in both our 320 and our IV.  It CAN be done safely and consistently.  Training and practice are the keys.

 

Bill Harrelson

N5ZQ 320 2,150 hrs

N6ZQ  IV  350 hrs

 

 

 

 

Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2013 2:05 PM

Subject: [LML] Re: FW: [LML] Flaps on take-off?

 

Robert,

 

You should try it under conditions that are more likely to be the case. 

 

Descend to pattern altitude, 1000 ft AGL, slow to pattern speed, and idle the engine abeam the numbers and see if you can make it

 

I recommend you idle the engine and not kill it, because I would be surprised if you do make it.  I also don’t recommend you coarse pitch the prop since you may need to add power for the go around.

 

Bill

 

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