Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #38448
From: terrence o'neill <troneill@charter.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Turbine crash
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:47:58 -0500
To: <lml>
Jeff,
 
    Yes.  Brings back memories from Whiting Field, FL 1954, SNJ recovery from unusual attitudes partial-panel  - Stop the turn (step on the ball), Level the wings and recover.
    Two years later the Navy put AOAs in every carrier plane and cut landing accidents 50 percent (50%) the first year. Stop the turn, dump the AOA to below stall SNGLE, and recover quicker.
    Wings stall at an ANGLE, regardless of airspeed, etc. 
    But the FAA and pilots still are talking about stall SPEED, 50 years later.  It seems hopeless.
 
Terrence
L235/320 N211AL
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 05:13 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Turbine crash

In a message dated 11/13/2006 3:15:09 PM Central Standard Time, Sky2high@aol.com writes:
Regardless of how the engine stopped, the way the emergency was handled seems to be important. 
Scott,
 
You are a genius. It seems that powered pilots when faced with an engine out situation tend to fly until:
 
a) they hit something or
b) they run out of airspeed and stall the airplane.
 
Most aircraft accidents I investigate and pilots I see in flight training or in FAA checkrides are not capable of determining how far they can glide and whether or not they can make it to their chosen landing site. Most pilots do not know how to spiral over their landing site, arrive at a suitable high key and low key postion and land within 200 feet of their chosen point. This is important stuff-- but many pilots do not know how to do it and many do not practice it regularly. It is not hard stuff. If a 14 year old soloing in a glider can do it why can't an adult pilot do it in a Lancair? This guy wasn't even close. Flying is like golf...if you don't practice regularly, how can you expect to shoot par?
 
Jeff Edwards
LIVP N619SJ
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