Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #31514
From: Robert Overmars <robert.overmars@tiscali.it>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Thunderstorm Survival
Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 12:35:44 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Saluti tutti,
 
Perhaps those pilots contemplating extending flaps in the case of inadvertent penetration of thunderstorms should read FAR 23.345  (a) (1) (2)appended below.
 
Martin Hollman writes in M.A.D. vol I, "...A limit load factor of 0.5 x n1 is used at Vf. This condition gives us the maximum twisting load on the wing.... Twisting causes high in-plane shear stress and together with twisting generates high rear spar loads"  (n1 is the positive manoeuvre limit load factor)
 
Never having penetrated one of those nasty thunderies I still can't help but think that compromising the aircraft G load limit, the gust design strength, and restricting the aircraft speed envelope  to Vf at a time when the maximum strength/gust response/speed may well be needed is just not a good idea. Test piloting the ultimate flap system or wing strength at such a time could really spoil your day.
 
By the way I do believe that the Vf G load limit is written up in aircraft flight manuals. Anyone have a flight manual handy to confirm?
 
ciao,
 
Roberto d'Italia.
 
 
 
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(a) If flaps or similar high lift devices are to be used for takeoff, approach or landing, the airplane, with the flaps fully extended at VF, is assumed to be subjected to symmetrical maneuvers and gusts within the range determined by—

(1) Maneuvering, to a positive limit load factor of 2.0; and

(2) Positive and negative gust of 25 feet per second acting normal to the flight path in level flight.

(b) VF must be assumed to be not less than 1.4 VS or 1.8 VSF, whichever is greater, where—

(1) VS is the computed stalling speed with flaps retracted at the design weight; and

(2) VSF is the computed stalling speed with flaps fully extended at the design weight.

(3) If an automatic flap load limiting device is used, the airplane may be designed for the critical combinations of airspeed and flap position allowed by that device.

(c) In determining external loads on the airplane as a whole, thrust, slipstream, and pitching acceleration may be assumed to be zero.

(d) The flaps, their operating mechanism, and their supporting structures, must be designed to withstand the conditions prescribed in paragraph (a) of this section. In addition, with the flaps fully extended at VF, the following conditions, taken separately, must be accounted for:

(1) A head-on gust having a velocity of 25 feet per second (EAS), combined with propeller slipstream corresponding to 75 percent of maximum continuous power; and

(2) The effects of propeller slipstream corresponding to maximum takeoff power.

[Doc. No. 27805, 61 FR 5144, Feb. 9, 1996]

 
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