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Nga: Rino <lacombr@nbnet.nb.ca>
Lënda: Re: [FlyRotary] Glider rating: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.
Data: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 16:03:27 -0300
Për: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Ed,
 
I do have two glider experiences (only a few minutes each) in my Glass Goose so I know that it does glide without an engine.  After the engine stop, I hear the airflow (or wind) on the canopy, then I can easily imagine what it is to be flying a glider.
 
Rino Lacombe
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Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 10:51 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Glider rating: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.

Actually, Chrissi,  I did get one back in the early 1960s.  Never used it (in a true glider) since, but it did convey flight was possible without an engine and prop turning - which undoubtedly lessen the pucker factor a tiny bit. 
 
Did I tell you about my glider check ride with aileron locks in?   Impressed the heck out of the instructor who was on board and who told me no pre-flight was necessary ( he was in a hurry to get back home)  and who gave me heck about using too much rudder to get around the pattern (but, I couldn't get it to turn without a lot of rudder). 
 
The scary part was later realizing that if I had ever let the wing get few degrees too low, the rudder would never have brought it back to level!! 
 
 Yes, after we landed (and me thinking I had flunked the ride) we saw people running down the runway waving arms and then pointing to the bright red streamers on the locks did he and I realized how badly it could have turned out - he had no problem signing me off {:>)
 
So while not necessary - it keeps you legal {:>)
 
While I don't recommend (in fact just the opposite) landing engine-out as practice - a few hours in a glider is great preparation should that very rare event ever happen {:>)
 
Ed

Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2011 9:34 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.

So Ed, you are saying a glider rating is essential? =)
 
Chrissi & Randi
www.CozyGirrrl.com
CG Products, Custom Aircraft Hardware
Chairwomen, Sun-N-Fun Engine Workshop
 
In a message dated 10/12/2011 12:45:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes:
Well, Chris,
 
Some of us get notoriety because of time in unpowered flight - others for their teething problems - want to swap? {:>)
 
Ed

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 1:10 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.

Teething problems.....I resemble that remark....

 

Chris Barber

Houston

91 turbo 13b

Velocity SE


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [flyrotary@lancaironline.net] on behalf of Ed Anderson [eanderson@carolina.rr.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 11:59 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.

Hi Jeff,
 
590 hours  in 12 years.  However, I have only flow a few hours in the last 3 years, mainly to  Sun & Fun and other Flyins.  Just got too busy with other things (my small business in electronics is growing)
 
I have a 1987 Turbo 13B sitting in my shop as well as various parts such as an extra e shaft, ignition modules, CAS, etc.
 
The only information I have ever seen on TBO of a rotary in aircraft use was done by a German University for the Wankle institution - and they estimate 4000 hour TBO.  Since I would have been happy with 1000 hours - I have not worried about it.  Tracy did some measurements at around the 800 hour point on his original junk yard 13B and found hardly any wear on the parts designed to wear (like apex seals).  So it appears once you have your engine set up and past the teething problems you can expect a long run time.
 
Ed

Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 12:48 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: The rotary may live.

Hey Ed, how many hours do you have now, in how many years -  500 hrs in 10 years, something like that?

What is the likely TBO in your configuration and flight profile -  1000, 1500?

How many useable spare core parts do you have sitting on the shelf?

We had all better keep our existing engines alive and stop dreaming about 16X’s … frankly I’m surprised Mazda has toughed it out with the rotary this long.

Happily flying mine these days, approaching 60 hours …

Jeff

 

 

From:

"Ed Anderson" <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>

Subject:

Re: [FlyRotary] The rotary may live.

Date:

Tue, 11 Oct 2011 23:55:51 -0400

To:

"Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/Message/56882-H.txt 

http://lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/Message/56882-P.txt 

Thanks, Sam

 

One can only hope it will be in the not so distant future.

 

Ed

 

Edward L. Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com

 

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