Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #23904
From: Brent Regan <brent@regandesigns.com>
Sender: Marvin Kaye <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Door pump stays on at altitude
Date: Sat, 22 May 2004 14:16:02 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Greg is right in that you have the pressure switch set too high for the configuration of your system. The split seam of your last seal may also testify to this.

The air pump, like your engine, has a "compression ratio" which limits the maximum pressure output to a multiple of the ambient pressure. The compression ratio is the volume of the system with the piston at the bottom of the stroke divided by the volume of the system with the piston at the top of its stroke.

In Carl's case he needs to:

1) Find the leak. There IS a small leak or the pump would never need to run. The leak could be across the check valve and back through the pump. It could also be at the pneumatic switch.

2) Measure the maximum pressure output of the pump at sea level with the pressure switch bypassed. Disconnect the door seal during this test or you WILL burst it. Reconnect the pressure switch and adjust the cutout pressure to not more than 1/4 of the maximum sea level pressure. The ambient air pressure at FL280 is about 1/3 of sea level.  Check with the manufacturer for the recommended inflation pressure range of the seal and be sure you are within those limits.

In my plane I added a pump inlet filter to the door seal system to prevent dirt from getting into the check valves and causing leaks. For a filter I used a bubble stone from an aquarium, the ones used to aerate the tank. 9 years later, no leaks.

On the topic of pump compression ratio, in the case of the manual gear extension pump
the system volume includes the volume of the lines to the check valves. This becomes and important point when the system is full of air and in need priming. For best performance the check valves must be mounted as close as practical to the pump.

Imagine the extreme case where there was a mile of tubing between the piston off the pump and the check valve. On an engine, this would be like adding a 6 foot stack of head gaskets under the head. Your compression ratio drops to near 1:1 because you have a relatively small piston stroking inside a large volume. In this case size does matter.

Regards
Brent Regan
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