Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #68043
From: George Wehrung <gw5@me.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNCE - Extended range fuel capacity
Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2013 08:45:11 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Yes we did.  We flew up to the western portion of the park and crossed the grand canyon through all four of the VFR corridors.  The total length was 514 nm.  I can send you the route off Foreflight if you want to duplicate the way points.





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On Nov 16, 2013, at 18:22, Jay Phillips <jayph@fastairplane.net> wrote:

George,

 

I live near Sedona. Sedona to Santa Fe great circle route is only 283 nm. I can’t believe that took you 3.8 hours. Maybe you took the scenic route? J

 

Jay Phillips

 

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of George Wehrung
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 12:43 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: LNCE - Extended range fuel capacity

 

 

Our ES the 95 gallon tank option; kit 014.

 

Our longest was a 3.8 from Sedona, AZ to Santa Fe, NM during our ferry flight. Very painful on the bladder. We were traveling with probably about 200lbs in luggage, tools and what not.  It was my wife, 8 lb dog, and I.  I use 3200 lbs total weight and we had just under that each day with about 92 gallons of fuel.  Lately, I have been having them fill to about 1” below the caps because when they truly top it they seem to always get it on the wing.  

 

For flight planning I use about 150 knots and 15 gph average burn; although, lately I have been getting better about setting LOP and running 12.5 to 13.5 gph at 8 to 10,000.  My average TAS has been about 170.

 

Now, I think with the first leg we will scale that back to a 2.5 to purge the coffee out and the next leg we can push to a longer 3.5.

 

Anyhow, that’s what we do.

 

 

 

 

On Nov 15, 2013, at 1:42 AM, Jim Scales <joscales98@hotmail.com> wrote:



What would you consider to be "super long range"?

 

I carry 91 useable which can keep me flying for about 6 hours plus reserve and put me about 1000 nm away from home. Can do this with 600# of people but no luggage.  

 

Would be interested to hear what other ES's are doing. 

 

Longest logged flight has been 4.4 hours and 730 nm. Landed with 26 gal remaining.  Made for a long day. 

 

 


On Nov 14, 2013, at 11:27 AM, "Colyn Case" <colyncase@earthlink.net> wrote:

Does anyone know why the ES tanks are so small?

I know a lot of people think it's cool to be able to say a plane flies with full tanks and full seats but IMO if pilot + fuel doesn't bring you to gross the tanks are too small.  

 

The first time I saw an ES and how big the wings are I thought "Wow, wouldn't it be neat to fill those wings with fuel and make a super long range machine."

 

I can imagine engineering considerations but I wonder if anyone knows for sure.

 

Colyn

 

On Nov 14, 2013, at 10:00 AM, James M. Anderson, III P.C. wrote:



Greetings:  I’m building a slow build ES (Kit # 11), and just learned that the stock 75 gallon fuel capacity can be enlarged to around 90 gallons.  Luckily I’m at the stage where I can add a bay without difficulty.  I’ve checked with Lancair, and am awaiting some documentation on how to do that, but wanted to check here to see how others have accomplished the modification.  My the way, this is my first post, but surely not the last.

 

James M. Anderson, III

Anderson & Ealick, P.C.

Suite 130

5855 Sandy Springs Circle

Sandy Springs,  GA  30328

404-255-0319

 

 

 

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