Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #60060
From: thomas williams <tfsent@att.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Fw: Updated SUMMARY OF LANCAIR ACCIDENTS IN NTSB DATABASE
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 16:14:50 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
what surprises me is the number of accidents in the test phase that have 2 or more people in the plane!!!




From: Kevin Stallard <Kevin@arilabs.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Thursday, October 27, 2011 3:36 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Fw: Updated SUMMARY OF LANCAIR ACCIDENTS IN NTSB DATABASE


All right, I'll fall for the bait :)

Look, even with an AOA installed, I could see an undisciplined pilot
panicking and yanking on the stick because he doesn't know what else to
do.

-Kevin



-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of
Terrence O'Neill
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2011 2:44 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Re: Fw: Updated SUMMARY OF LANCAIR ACCIDENTS IN NTSB
DATABASE

Just a brief note:
Counting only the sixty-three  235 and 320 accidents, eleven of the
crashes (17.5%) resulted from the pilot pulling his wing past it's stall
angle of attack, for whatever reason. 
This is defining "cause" as the last effective act of a pilot prior to
him losing control. Most of these AOA accidents occurred at too low an
altitude to permit possible recovery.
It would be interesting to find out how many of these aircraft had AOAs
installed.
Generally, an airplane's wing flies (hands off) at the (unstalled) trim
angle, no matter what the attitude. Pilot input is required to bring a
wing to an AOA above stall.
Discussion is invited.
Terrence  L235/320 N211AL


On Oct 25, 2011, at 8:00 PM, William Rumburg wrote:

> Lee Metcalfe took time and effort to update the Lancair Accident
Summary he created several years ago. I'm submitting it for him since he
is no longer active on the LML. It's for all of our benefit...read and
heed
>
> Bill Rumburg
> N403WR (Sonic bOOm)



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