Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #52668
From: <vtailjeff@aol.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: OSH arrival
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2009 11:24:00 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
nope--not at all


-----Original Message-----
From: Colyn Case at earthlink <colyncase@earthlink.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Mon, Aug 17, 2009 6:52 am
Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival

do you actually have to lie to get the warbird arrival?
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:49 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival

I used the warbird arrival this year with no problems. I reported at Fond du Lac and again at Warbird Island and was cleared to land on runway 36. Other than a 20 kt crosswind there were no problems. IN 2008 when using the FISK arrival I had to go around three times. When I tried to extend out to give myself some room someone would cut in front of me.On the last go around I passed a bonanza on about a one mile final and landed ahead of him. That experience made me decide to use the warbird arrival the next year and it worked great.  
 
Wendell Solesbee IVP  N4LK
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, August 16, 2009 5:33 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: OSH arrival

Bill,
 
I absolutely agree with you.  I avoid flying into Oshkosh and Sun n Fun for much the same reasons as you detail below.
 
Tried to get the warbird arrival last year.  I even arranged it with the tower at Fond du Lac.  On my way in to Oshkosh, I was asked if I was a Warbird - I honestly told them I was not - they told me I could not have the warbird arrival.  I then tried to get the "turbine arrival" - they asked me if I was a turbine - again I replied honestly and they told me I could not have the "turbine arrival".  I was forced to make a short pattern and land on the taxiway - which actually worked OK.
 
I don't think the Oshkosh controllers have any idea about the V speeds of the planes they are controlling.  Their emphasis is on getting everyone in as quickly as possible whether safely or not.
 
 
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