Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #47551
From: Brent Regan <brent@regandesigns.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: Selecting an EFIS
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 19:32:00 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Rick writes:

"...
some EFIS systems (especially the inexpensive ones) derive their attitude depiction data from GPS and pitot data. In other words, if you lose GPS or your pitot (blockage, icing, etc.), your ATTITUDE depiction will become INACCURATE. <snip> The most startling thing that I found out during my research is that the FAA CERTIFIED, Chelton system does have the problem of inaccurate attitude data with the lost of pitot input. Their manuals state that the attitude indication can be off as much as 2.5 degrees when pitot data is not available....>>>


2.5 degrees ??!!??!! Horror of horrors!

Rick's post proves two things. One is that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. The other is that  if you start with a conclusion you can find facts that "support" said conclusion.

Now for some real facts and reason. Most mechanical AH gyroscopic instruments rely on the gravity to determine which way is up. The influence of this "gravity vector erection" is small compared to the forces that maintain the gyroscope "rigid in space".  Imagine a pendulum hanging in a jar of honey.  If you roll the jar, the pendulum will point in a  new direction for a while but will, over time, return to pointing straight down. Likewise, if you roll into a coordinated turn with a mechanical gyro AH and hold the turn for several minutes the AH will eventually show level flight when you are still turning. Your inner ear also has this property, but for different reasons.

When your are in a turn the centripetal force vector and the gravity force vector combine to create an apparent gravity vector, which is not vertical (with respect to the earth).

Mechanical gyro AHs, and apparently GRT, rely on the assumption that, on average, aircraft fly straight and level.

Now suppose you were a cleaver guy and  you knew the velocity of the aircraft and the rate of turn (degrees per second) you could calculate the centripetal force vector and then subtract that from the apparent gravity vector to get the actual gravity vector. You would know which way is up regardless of how long you maintain the turn.  Chelton uses a proprietary algorithm to do this very thing and delivers the resulting superior performance.  The other benefit of this is that the Chelton ADAHRS is the only low cost solid state AHRS that does not have a "kill maneuver" that will cause significant attitude errors (e.g. low rate climbing turn).

Will the Chelton attitude accuracy degrade with loss of air data? Yes, but in it's degraded state it still has better performance that its competitors over its entire operating range.  Rick's assertion that his GRT AHRS is superior to the CFS ADAHRS because it does not have an air data "problem" is like saying a car without wheels is superior to a car with wheels because it does not have
a potential  flat tire "problem".

The bottom line is that the Chelton  system has undergone extensive certification testing and has proven its performance. All the other wannabes can claim to be "just as good or better" but until they prove it  empirically  you should not take the claims as fact.

Having spent the last 14 years designing, building and flying cockpit flight information systems and having the experience of having thousands of these systems deployed I can say that it is never a good idea to fly actual IMC without mechanical backups and that most experimental EFIS systems only work great when you don't need them, although many fail that test as well.

Regards
Brent Regan


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