In a message dated 2/9/2007 9:55:47 A.M. Central Standard Time,
fredmoreno@optusnet.com.au writes:

Thanks Fred.
This is a very good diagram to explain several personal observations and
confirm a very interesting physicist's lecture on wings and lift. I
watched with fascination, a 172 at high idle on the ramp after a rain and
where the surface had dried while there was still water in the
pavement cracks, the formation of water tornados (sprites?) aft of the prop
and moving forward into it in spite of the prop wash. Indeed, it was
strongly obtaining flow from "below the wing", tip vortices
notwithstanding. A friend drew a metal plate on the ground, aft of his
prop, into the blade(s), wrecking the prop and scaring the #$$#^%$^ out of us
observing as the pieces were flying out in the plane of the prop disk. When
someone is starting their engine I am more observant about the ground around the
prop and where I am standing.
BTW, The physicist mentioned above had a "deer in the headlights" look when
I mentioned reflexed wings - like those on our wee Lancairs.
Scott Krueger
AKA Grayhawk
Lancair N92EX IO320 SB 89/96
Aurora, IL (KARR)
A man
has got to know his limitations.