Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #39875
From: Bill&Sue <5zq@cox.net>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Bird Strike!
Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2007 18:33:35 -0500
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Hey Scott, I was talking to an old buddy of mine who learned to fly in Stearmans in the Air Corps during the big one. He says that they were taught to NOT take any evasive maneuver to avoid birds. The theory being that the bird was very probably going to do SOMETHING. If he did something and you did nothing, you'd miss. Otherwise, you'd have to outguess the bird and I ain't that smart.
 
Chuck, I agree with your "useful time" statement. When we hit ours there was maybe 1/2 to 1 second to react...no more. Certainly not enough time to make any meaningful judgement call based on altitude, at least not in my minimal brain.
 
Bill Harrelson
N5ZQ 320 1,300 hrs
N6ZQ  IV under construction
 
 
----- Original Message -----
To: lml
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 10:42 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: Bird Strike!

Okay, I'll bite.  If we see a bird, or should I say, by the time we see a bird, is there actually useful, effective manuveurs that can be implements or is it strickly a wait-n-see regarding the outcome.  I've not had any strikes but the encounter happens so fast, it seems hard to believe that one can be assured that the manuveur one makes will avoid the hit, instead of ensuring you do.  However, I am definitely in favor of ducking!!!
 
It is surprisingly common for two cars to collide in a near empty parking lot...and those fools are only working in 2-D.

Chuck Jensen 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Sky2high@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 10:11 PM
To: lml
Subject: [LML] Re: Bird Strike!

In a message dated 2/6/2007 7:24:33 P.M. Central Standard Time, 5zq@cox.net writes:
Interesting stuff, Scott. A little late, but still interesting :-).
Bill and Sue,
 
Au contraire, mon amis. Perhaps the outcome would have been different had you read and memorized all the titillating details when the article was first published, then changed your "Impending Bird Strike"  emergency checklist.  Such a checklist should always be in the hands of the co-pilot, highlighted for AGL read outs and ready to assist the FP on impact avoidance (or post strike cleanup).  I know that age is catching up and information retention is being crowded out by images of the "good old days", but here one must be encouraged to engage in recurrent training and simulated bird attacks in order to stay atop one's game.  Shutting one's eyes and pulling on the stick whilst voicing the phrase "circular letter excrement" just isn't the proper response.  Lancair pilots fly a higher line than that.
 
Grayhawk the irrelevant.
 
We just keep pecking away at safety.
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