|
|
Hi Neil, That does sound like an all too familiar story. In the past I have dealt with a similar starter-like issue that I eventually tracked to corrosion on a 4 gauge crimp.
But this time the starter is performng like a champ. When I say it wont catch, I mean that the engine turns over great and there is some combustion going on, just not enough to keep the engine going.
But I am sure my actual problem is pretty similar in some way. Corrosion somewhere on something is an almost given as the underlying root cause.
Thanks for the story, David Leonard
Dave,
Thinking about your starter problem suddenly brought
back sad memories from over 20 years ago when I owned 2 Claas 106
headers (ag machines) which were without doubt the greatest Lemons that
Claas ever produced , and I had 2 of them. Besides the usual grief these
monstrosities gave, the engines always started and ran beautifully up
until about 2000 - 2500 hours. The engines were V6 mercedes diesels
with Bosch starters. Then once these hours were reached they would start
cold perfectly, but once hot refused to turn over until cold. The
starters just did not throw in at all. To remove the starters required
the Cab to be tilted forwards which opened up a small gap between the
cab and the engine bay. By sliding down like a snake, one could then
remove the side panel of the engine bay --- all at red hot in the
middle of summer. With the engine bay cover removed it exposed the
starter for removal. Only trouble was that the exhaust manifold had to
be removed first to get to the starter!! Trust me it was such a joy
that it was sheer desperation to be forced to remove the starter.
Every time the starter would turn over perfectly on the bench.
Disassembled and resembled many times for no fault whatever, they always
performed perfectly on the bench, but hot in the machine--- no way.
Then about the 10th time and many hours later on the bench it was
getting dark and when the power was applied to the starter, sparks flew
from the rear cage of the starter. In broad daylight it would never
have been picked up. The rear cage held the brushes and was solid
riveted to the main body and had to carry the current between the two
parts. After drilling out the solid rivets it was obvious that black
corrosion has set in and effectively insulated the Brushes cage from any
current when hot. Without having seen it I would say it was impossible.
All was cleaned up, re -riveted and soldered for good measure and
Whacko, all worked as it should hot or cold.
Does it have any relevance to the rotary starter??? I do not know, but a
change of starter would tell all. The corrosion in the Bosch starter
accumulated over 2500 hours and would never had been picked up without
that chance test in semi darkness.
Suggest all connections to the starter be meticulously cleaned as the
slightest corrosion may stop current flow when hot, or impede enough
that it just drags current away for no effect. A bad connection will
heat, drag current away and effectively react as if the battery is half
flat. Also never buy a Claas 106 header unless you wish to learn to swear.
Neil.
--
Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/
Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
|
|