Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #65078
From: William Jepson wrjjrs@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Curved aluminum radiators
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 13:29:13 -0700
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Guys, I mentioned the curved radiators because some cowl contours will work with them. Note also that the original Powersport team came up with a excellent layout. 3 setrab type coolers in a splayed U. Tipped up just a little one cooler for oil at the bottom with two water radiators on the sides V’ed into the flat cooler on the bottom. All 3 are edge to the firewall. The baffling is at the front of the rads. Over all the cowl with the area between the rads open. Very little ducting is needed. The air flows into the center, out through the coolers, and out the bottom of the cowl in the standard position. This system needs a swirl pot to recombine the two water radiators. Run those parallel. This system was the last from the original Powersport and worked great.
Bill Jepson 

On Mon, Aug 26, 2019 at 7:21 AM lehanover lehanover@aol.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
I use three 44 tube SETRABS. Two in the scavenge loop and one in the pressure loop. Under 200 degrees on a hot day.  Sorry about the picture quality. Lynn E. Hanover

In a message dated 8/26/2019 8:20:58 AM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:

Todd, just catching up on the blog after a week of vacation ... my main thought is that doubling your Surface AREA will have far more positive affect than the negative effects of halving your CUBIC area ... cubic inches of radiator is misleading - surface area is far more important.
Jeff

I'm considering making some changes to my cooling system as it is not adequate when flying low & slow, as on recent flights on a few hot days. I'm still using a set of evap cores as they fit the limited space on either side of the PSRU in an RV cowl.
  Bill Jepson made mention of a curved radiator earlier this summer, which has been simmering on a hot spot way back in my brain ever since. I've spent the last few days looking real hard at the idea.
The size and shape of the curve looks like it would conform quite nicely to the bottom of the RV cowl. so that the top of the rad would be perpendicular to the airflow while the bottom will curve away. This would require a new ducts to be glassed to take advantage of this, but that would allow for more time and room to slow down the airflow for greater efficiency. It would also almost double the square inches of cooling area than I currently have, however as it is thinner it would provide half of the cubic inches of volume as I currently have.
The small thick rads I currently use were chosen more with high speeds in mind (well, and of course ease of installation), but now I'm thinking that I'd rather have a thinner rad that would perform better on the ground and in slow flight. These curved rads seem like they could offer some advantages.
  I've just found them listed on Amazon.ca for $148CAD with free shipping (x2)which seems pretty reasonable, so for $300, it might offer a significant cooling upgrade.... or maybe not.
I wish I could find an old one to cut open to inspect, test weld, check for fit, etc.

Does anybody have any thoughts on the idea? I'm on the edge so it wouldn't take much to push me over, or pull me back....

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