Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #62889
From: Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [Flyrotary] Re: Just a bit of a update
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:05:06 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Bill,

If no sealant is used then I’m assuming the coolant passages are not totally blocked.  Mark Steitle’s P-Port has about 150 hours with the inserts welded to the liner. Mark was an excellent welding and I’m sure he back purged  to minimize crystallization. But who knows how long they will last and the failure mode. Small coolant leak, large coolant leak or apex seal failure. At least with the 20B an apex seal failure is not likely to stress the gearbox and should allow for a safe landing with a reasonable smooth engine. Not so with 2 rotors.  

 

Any chance you guys will offer the p-port housing service to folks on this list? I’ve got another FWF renesis under slow development in the garage. Getting close to finishing up the plugs up oil pan and block off plate. The exhaust headers and  turbo are next and then the intake manifold. On the fence about the p-port but I’m encouraged by all the effort and seemingly positive results from your efforts and they guy down under.  I’m running 7000 rpm / 38” MP for takeoff with the super charger and cruise at 4800 – 5200 rpm / 28-32” MP. P-Porting would probably allow for lower MP for takeoff and still normalize for cruise.

 

Bobby

RV10 \ Super Charged Renesis

About 400 hobbs / 310 flight hours

bhughes@qnsi.net

 

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Monday, October 17, 2016 5:59 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Just a bit of a update

 

Charlie,

Pardon my haste in the original reply. The butterflies are very similar to the original, with the exception that we have devised a new way to make them that doesn't require drilling through the housings. Can't say more right now other than we do NOT use epoxy in the housings and NO sealing problems. Don't expect any. Also we DO NOT weld to the liner as sometimes pushed by others. I do not believe you can weld to the liner without catastrophic failure later. I believe you will either fail your apex seals or crack the weld due to crystallization of the steel. The muffler is a MAJOR win. It is quieter than a unmuffled Lyc, and successfully kills the annoying hi frequencies. It is more restrictive than some but only costs us a few HP. It also fits in an RV-3! I am experimenting with a larger version in hopes of repeating the success with a bit less restriction on cowls that aren't as tight as the RV-3

Bill

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Bill,

 

Thanks for the link. I've been following it on the Homebuilt Airplanes forum; are you 'billsrv4' over there?

 

I've been trying to find a throttle mechanism in the video, but don't see one. Are they using the custom 'in the housing' butterflies, like the original Powersport engine? 

 

Have you heard it run in person? If so, does the muffler work as well as it seems to in the video? (Hard to know how much the audio is clipped in level on a recording.)

 

Thanks,

 

Charlie

 

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 4:52 PM, William Jepson <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Since it has been so quiet thought I would make some noise.

Try this package on for size.

Think you will find it interesting.

Bill

 

 

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