Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #62430
From: Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Intake Styles and Data
Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2016 23:29:48 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sorry for lack of detailed info; I was away from home & pecking at my phone to reply.

Wayback machine:
https://archive.org/web/

Tracy's old website was:
http://www.rotaryaviation.com/
which no longer has aviation info on it (currently only car performance parts under different ownership).

But, by plugging it into the wayback machine and picking a date (blue highlighted days), you'll get something like
https://web.archive.org/web/20110423034131/http://rotaryaviation.com/

Click on the 'rvotter' (RV-4's name) link on the left, then 'renesis engine' link on the left, to get to
https://web.archive.org/web/20111028001512/http://www.rotaryaviation.com/renesis_engine.htm

Page is in reverse chronological order. A little over halfway down the page, there's a pretty good pic of the intake with the cover off. Read *all* the text on the page; some changes were made after the pic.

Just in case you aren't familiar with intake design & 'hot rod' techniques...

If you build a 'box' like he did, don't assume you can build an aluminum plenum box like I did; I knew better & just forgot that intake vacuum and dynamic pulses will destroy a simple box very quickly. Either build it out of plywood or from round tubing stock. Second, don't omit the 'velocity stacks' on the tubes.

Length is basically the longest you can fit in your cowl without using bends in the tubes. Tracy told me that his is just 'coming on the pipe' at up around 7000 to 7500 rpm with ~11" length from block to flair. Something like 19" would be best for ~6000 rpm, but that's tough to do without bends, which restrict flow. IIRC, mine in the -7 are about 12" (haven't started the engine yet).

The page on the -8 20B is at tests/projects>rv-8 project.Unfortunately, the 20B intake pics must have been linked to another site, and the link is now broken. Try different dates & you might find a page that will load all the pics.

Charlie

n 4/10/2016 10:48 PM, Jarrett Johnson wrote:

Thanks for the link Doug. Those are some great pictures. It's interesting to note that regardless of the various changes the performance didn't improve. I like the simplicity of the 5.0L throttle body for a butterfly.

 

Neil, I've liked the P-Port for some time but have wondered what percentage of projects are leaning that direction? No doubt it's the best performance solution and certainly the simplest intake system vs the multiple port configurations that have existed over the years. If there was enough interest this might be my best option for the initial development.

 

Charlie, I did a quick google search but didn't come up with too much in the way of data. I've got Tracy's book and will do some more internet searching as I go forward researching things.

 

Thanks for the input guys, it's greatly appreciated!

 

Jarrett

 

 

 



On Sun, 10 Apr 2016 13:33:27 +0200, Doug Lomheim <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Sam Hodges won Best Auto Conversion at SnF and posted a nice shot of Rose and himself on his FB page!
 
Bill Eslick has some of his intake manifold “trials and tribulations” posted on his web site  with pictures of his three different iterations if anyone needs some ideas.  I bought his 3rd Version from him a few years ago when he was installing a Lyco-saurus in his “6”.  
 
 
Cheers
 
Doug Lomheim
RV-9A 13B FWF (Hopefully will finish it in 2018)
RV-3A (restored, flown, sold)




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