Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #57635
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed Anderson's old "ride", off topic
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 12:53:24 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
One could certainly make a case for that theory {:>)
 
Ed

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed Anderson's old "ride", off topic

Do does this mean that the engine destroying gremlin that rides on your shoulder has been around for a long time???  :>)

 

B2

 


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 11:24 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed Anderson's old "ride", off topic

 

In fact, my first ever flight in an EB-66 was in Southeast Asia.  We EWs only got to "fly" in a simulator at Shaw AFB, SC before deploying to SEA.   On that first "orientation" flight - we did come back on one engine, so the while the airframe was quite good (and strong - could do a split S in this twin engine bomber), the engines sucked - but, not all the time {:>)

 

Thanks for the link to the history of the aircraft, Kelly

 

Ed

 

From: Kelly Troyer

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:56 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed Anderson's old "ride", off topic

 

Ed,

 

 Were you trying to say that the Allison J71 did not give you a warm fuzzy feeling of confdence??......................<:)

 

 

 

Kelly Troyer

 

 

 

On Sun, Mar 18, 2012 at 7:50 AM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:

Yes, we envied the Navy guys as the AD1 had a much more powerful (and reliable) engine than the Air Force B-66.  I remember seeing many EB-66s sitting on the ramp with one or more engines missing.  Wasn't this later called the A3D?  As I recall the Navy guys said it stood for "All 3 Dead" - the SkyWarrior normally had a crew of 3.

 

We used to joke about having two engines was good.  Two to go out on and one to come home on. 

I lost a friend due to those lousy engines.  As was not uncommon, he was returning on one engine at night, attempted to make a go around and the other engine blew - no time for anyone to get out.  Aways sad to lose a friend, but particularly due to faulty equipment.

 

Ed

 

Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 7:12 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed Anderson's old "ride", off topic

 

The aircraft was actually developed for the Navy as the AD1 Sky Warrior. Then later mods for the Air Force as the RB66. I watched many launch and recover from the USS Forrestal.

 

 

Lynn E. Hanover

AO3 USS Forrestal

 

In a message dated 3/17/2012 7:00:12 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, eanderson@carolina.rr.com writes:

Actually, Bill, being the EW,  I flew to the right and back of the pilot in
the E model - so that was the seat cushion that needed replacing {:>).

The interesting thing is that when the crap hits the fan,  your training
kicks in and you are so busy twisting knobs, making radio calls, listening
to the radar and missile guidance signals to tell what mode they are in
....etc, that you really don't have time to get scared.  Its not until you
get back and down that the reaction kicks in.  I guess in my case, at least,
it was the old - it won't be me they get.  I mean how could you really go
back out day after day unless you believed that.

But, after returning from that long 11 hour mission (several air
refuelings), I got debriefed, got a bite to eat and hit the Officers club
bar around 1100PM.  Had a few drinks, went to the bungalo - slept 45
minutes, woke up wide awake and couldn't go back to sleep for 48 hours.  Its
when things get quite that the reflection takes ahold and you relive the
incident - with enough time to get scared.

Actually, I have been more scare flying my rotary powered aircraft - because
in a 12 mile guild for example, you've got plenty of time to think {:>)

Ed




--
Kelly Troyer
Dyke Delta_"Eventually"
13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2

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