Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #57439
From: <Lehanover@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: one more thing. Or EGTs again.
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 09:27:13 -0500 (EST)
To: <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
An early side ported intake/peripheral exhaust ported engine is the baseline. The early side ported engine converted to a periphery intake,
is an aberration, similar to the factory pure race engines. The Renesis
engine with side intake and side exhaust ports with zero overlap and very little exhaust dilution of the intake is a similar but very different engine from other rotaries. Any of these with a turbocharger added 
becomes yet again another animal. All of these have home built intakes and home built exhaust systems. One of the results will be no two will produce the same outcome in any parameter.
 
The object of the EGT gage is to be able to see the combustion process in near real time. So, the probes should be about 3" out from the port face. If there is a curve in the pipe the probe should be on the outside of that curve where the probe will be bathed in the flow.
And still there is no guarantee of success only an improved likelihood.
 
Reverse the connections at the gage face to see if the readings follow the reversal. They should or the gage is faulty. Reverse the probes in the header to see if one just reads higher all of the time. If all is well in the gage system reverse two the injectors and see if the EGT reading follows the injector switch.
 
It is two single rotor engines sharing a crank shaft. You may never get the same EGTs on both housings.
 
Try for EGT below 1650 at wide open throttle full rich mixture at cruise speed. Add fuel to reduce the EGT (fuel cooling the engine). Peripheral exhaust ports using stock apex seals only I have no experience with side exhaust ports. Best power will be the same as a piston engine, or about 50 degrees rich of peak EGT. However, piston engine EGTs may only be 1550 or so, while rotary peaks may be above 1900 degrees.
Very bad for stock apex seals. So we stay well rich of peak EGT or
lean of peak EGT to attain the same low number. Very easy with the reduced fuel flow.
 
Aircraft engines have a much higher duty cycle than even a racing engine. Using stock spark plugs in an aircraft engine is uninformed at best. The racing plug gifted by Mazda to successful racers is the NGK R6725=115 Or Resistor plug PN 6725 in the 11.5 heat range.
 
Colder than the coldest street plug the 10 heat range. This plug is a retracted tip single side electrode and comes out of the box gapped at around .017"  
 
I reduce that gap to .010" and I run a MSD 6AL on both leading and trailing.
 
Why?
 
Because we think in terms of the piston engine where the mixture is pressed to the end of a tube with the plug in the center. Real handy for getting consistent performance. In the rotary the mixture goes by the plugs at 100 miles per hour carried by a long strange looking rotor face and being held against a cold rotor housing while it turns back into droplets. Chances of this working is low at best.
 
The car engine need only operate well below 4,000 RPM. Not useful for aircraft.
 
If using the stock "Lost spark" system on the leading plugs remember that the spark gaps are added as in series, and one plug always runs backwards electrically. So you could run a conventional retracted tip ice cold plug with a shorter gap and or switch the plug wires or the plugs from time to time.
 
But I run on as usual..................
 
Lynn E. Hanover
  
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/9/2012 7:29:24 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, wschertz@comcast.net writes:
EGT’s are thermocouples, (Type K), if you want to check the probes, hook a millivolt reading DVM up to the leads, and raise them to a known temperature (like boiling water). You can get the millivolts vs. temperature from a handbook. My opinion, is that if the settings on the EM2 are identical, the a difference in the EGT readings when the engine is running is probably real.
 
Have you tried it with the new plugs? I have the experience that when my plugs begin to go that I get a big spread in EGT readings, and the engine doesn’t like full throttle/high rpm’s, put in new plugs and it smooths out.
 
Bill Schertz
KIS Cruiser #4045
N343BS
Phase one testing Completed
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