On Sun, Oct 10, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Lionel Madore <lionelmadore@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Dave, You probably don't remember me but I wrote you a thank you note last year for your website because of all the great info and it tipped me off to a problem I now seem to have like you did. I have two atkins 13b's from the batch you got also. I have taken fastidious care of them, fogged them every three years and such, but no one before you mentioned anything about the cooling. I talked to Atkins, both Dave and Dan, and they said tear down if the passages are pitted. I inspected several passages, and yes there was a a little "hanging, granular" rust, but no pitting that I could see. I assumed my dry climate here helped. One engine is fairly clear and one engine will not allow 35 psi air ( the amount specified for the test by atkins) to pass from the block drain to anywhere up. indicating a passage block. Do you have any advice ? I would really appreciate it.I think if worse comes to worse I could remove the freeze out plugs and all cooling ports and clean it that way until it runs clear, but hopefully there is something easier. I really don't want to tear these down and send them off to overhaul, but yet I will do what I have to do before putting them in my airplane. I'm forwarding a screen shot of our solid works drawing we are using for CNC parts manufacture and stress analysis. It's actually very simple and We think very cool.
Thanks again,
Lionel
Hi Lionel,
I am afraid that the engine is probably no good. The rust in mine was so bad that it took several hours of chipping with a hammer and screwdriver to remove the rust that filled the chamber (and you cant reach it all), only to discover that the walls around the o-ring (the thinnest part) had rusted away. So not only did I need a re-build, but none of the iron housing were usable. I suspect that yours is in the same condition, and was probably ruined before Atkins sold it to you. Further, there is no way that he has been selling bad engines all these years without knowing about it... yes, I suspect that he is knowingly selling worthless engine - particularly to the aviation group, because we are likely to hold them for a while before discovering the problem - giving him someone else to blame.
I wouldn't let Atkins work on my bicycle, let along something that is going into my airplane. I suggest you tear it down yourself and hope some of the irons are usable (everything else should be fine including apex seals etc..) Replace the irons and build it up yourself - a fun rewarding project you can do first time in a weekend. Get Bruce Turrentine's video if you don't have it. As an alternate you can have it rebuilt by Bruce, or Mazdatrix, both of whom I would trust. Probably other reliable builders out there as well.
-- David Leonard Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY http://N4VY.RotaryRoster.nethttp://RotaryRoster.net
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