Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #51161
From: Tracy Crook <tracy@rotaryaviation.com>
Sender: <rwstracy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: alternative water pump
Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 08:52:54 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
This is just an eyeball comparison of the two Mazda pumps

The Renesis pump is undoubtedly lighter than the 2nd gen pump cartridge.  The water pump and front cover account for the lighter weight of the Renesis compared to the 2nd gen 13B.
However,  the design of the Renesis pump is stone-age crude by comparison.  The impeller is a simple bent piece of sheet metal.  The 2nd gen pump has a cast and machined scroll impeller that looks like a work of art by comparison.

Looks can be deceiving however.  I have no data on the actual performance.

Tracy

On Fri, May 7, 2010 at 1:47 AM, George Lendich <lendich@aanet.com.au> wrote:
Mark /Kelly,
I believe the Renesis is a much improved version of the 13B pump, but can't remember the reasons. I assume it is partly because of the impeller and partly because of the tolerances between the impellor and the pump housing ( being a close tolerance).
Do you have any info on the impellor/ tolerances etc. 
George ( down under)
Kelly, 

Keep in mind that I'm comparing it to a 20B water pump, not a 13B water pump.  The 20B pump (housing & cartridge, no pulley) weighs 11.8 lbs.  The Renesis pump & housing after being cut off the front cover is 4.5 lbs.  So, I potentially can save over 7 lbs.  The big question is if the Renesis WP flow is enough water to cool the 20B.  

At present, I'm still gathering parts for the conversion, so I'm currently running the stock 20B pump. 

Any idea what the Meziere pump weighs?  You'll need to add the weight of brackets too.  The Renesis pump will fit onto the front cover same as the stock pump... well, with a few minor mods.

Mark S.  

On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 6:32 PM, Kelly Troyer <keltro@att.net> wrote:
Michael,
    Beautiful pump but did you see a few posts back that Mark Steitle has
adapted a RX8 aluminum pump to his 20B and reported several lbs of
weight saving..........Jump in here Mark............Photos welcome !!.........
--
Kelly Troyer
"Dyke Delta"_13B ROTARY Engine
"RWS"_RD1C/EC2/EM2
"Mistral"_Backplate/Oil Manifold
-------------- Original message from "Michael Silvius" <silvius@gwi.net>: --------------


> Anyone try running one of these yet?
>
> http://www.meziere.com/ps-1224-0-WP430S.aspx
>
> I am looking to delete the big heavy cast unit on my 13B...but not increase
> my electric draw.
>
> Michael in Maine
>
>
>
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