Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #45131
From: Jeff Whaley <jwhaley@datacast.com>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners
Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2009 05:47:28 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Thanks for all your comments and questions ... I’ll try to answer them … so far I’m buying only SHELL 80-87 unleaded which has no “posted” alcohol content, though I have never actually tested it; I have aluminum fuel tanks and fuel line and/or alcohol-resistant marine hose at interconnect points, so my main concern about alcohol is its lack of power per unit volume … I have airplanes at two different airports, both burning MOGAS, one is only 2 miles from gas station the other is about 30 miles …  I live near Ottawa, Canada’s capitol;  I have driven by a few police cars with the gas tote but have never had one follow me yet … we are not allowed to store gasoline in our hangars, but there is no law against transporting it to and from the airport, just don’t stock-pile it … I kind of like George’s suggestion to “cover it up”, but this takes away the simplicity of the unit, it also removes the warning sign to tailgaters … I guess in hind-sight that a small trailer that Harley’s tow around might be the best solution.

Jeff

 

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Al Gietzen
Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2009 12:28 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners

 

Man, Jeff; that looks scary to me.  Even a minor rear-ender and you’ve got 15 gallons of gas splashed all over two vehicles, and possible friction sparks to set it off.  Maybe best you put up with some fumes, and let the bumper do its job.

 

I don’t know about where you live; but here in SoCal I expect the cops would find half a dozen violations with that setup.

 

I recently moved my plane to F70, which is in Riverside County; and was surprised to find in the regulations attached to the hangar lease that NO person is allowed to fuel a plane ANYWHERE on the airport from 5-gallon containers; and No person is allowed to fuel any airplane without written permission from the airport director.  Not mention that nNO person shall EVER fuel a plane in a hangar. NO volatiles of any kind, including lubricants and paint, can be kept in the hangar. So ordained by the County Board of Supervisors.    How’s that for extreme – or should I say absurd. And you have to name the county as additional insured for any damage or liability relating to the use of the hangar.  These are simple all-metal T-hangars.

 

I’ve been fueling from 5-gallon containers, in the hangar, for the past two years at my previous location. And I did it again today when no-one was looking – don’t tell anyone.

 

Al G

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeff Whaley
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 12:45 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Gas Tote for Auto Fuel burners

 

I got tired of smelling and afraid of carrying gas behind the back seat of my SUV, so I made this trailer-hitch carrier out of  1 1/4” pipe and an ATV basket … it’s not bullet-proof, but if an accident occurs the gas is better off outside the vehicle than inside.

Jeff

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