No, Jeff they are in parallel, because I
was too cheap to spend the $$ they wanted to convert my simple two pipe exhaust
into a single pipe – not because parallel is a better solution {:>).
Two in series would probably make it nicely quite.
Ed
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Jeff Whaley
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009
3:21 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: My
Muffler experiments (long) was [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral muffler.
Hi Ed, does that
mean you have 2 Hush Powers in series?
Jeff
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009
3:13 PM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] My Muffler
experiments (long) was [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral muffler.
Contrary to intuition – two parallel
mufflers actually reduce the sound less than one of the same type. If you
have both rotor pulses going through a single muffler you have a dominant high
energy frequency (at 6000 rpm) of 200 Hz to filter. If you have a single
rotor exhaust port with its separate muffler then the dominant freq for each
muffler is now 100Hz rather than 200Hz. The dimensions for two mufflers
of equivalent effectiveness would need to be approx twice as large for the
100Hz pulse of which you are required to hang TWO of these twice as
larger hummers underneath to get the same effectiveness in sound suppression as
using one muffler half the dimensions – or something along those lines.
So a single muffler (for sound
suppression) appears to be a better way to go – now if you are looking
for power instead of sound suppression then the story can be different.
Having experimented with several different
approaches, the one that seemed to have the most promise was the one in which I
placed 3” diameter 1/8” thick Stainless Steel discs. The
discs had vanes cut from the outer perimeter down to within 3/8 –
1/2” of the center. Then each vane was bent approx 45 deg to the
plane of the disc. These then had a 3/8” dia hole drilled down the
center and a rod on which 5 discs were strung and first locked in using jam
nuts (don’t bother trying) and later welded to the rod.
The idea was that the pulse in the exhaust
would in effect see (straight on) an almost solid metal disc and bounce back
what pulse go through the first disc would find a 2nd and 3rd
and 4th etc, where as the exhaust gas would fairly easily flow
around the blades and through the discs – relatively unimpeded (so the
theory went {:>)).
The first one I made I used a 2” dia
tube and discs – it was tremendously effective in suppressing the sound
– unfortunately it was equally effective in suppressing power. So I
concluded I needed a larger tube – so went to the 3” dia tube and
six discs.
This one I thought was really the solution
(and may have been if I had continued development) as it was very effective in
suppressing the sound (although not quite as much as the 2” tube) and I
got 6000 rpm static. Ah ha! I thought – this is it!!! I have
succeeded. So I buckled up and ran the engine up to 6000 rpm and
launched. The only unfortunate aspect of the flight is that I never got
over 6000 rpm static {:<(.
I then cut the number of disc back to 4
and that appear to do the job. However, my next flight was down to Tracy’s
Crook. I was later told by a witness to my take off that it sound like I
had a turbine engine under the cowl (more on that later). In any case, I
noticed about 20 minutes into the flight that the EGT on one exhaust was up
into the 1700 + range whereas my normal EGT was more like 1550 -1600 max.
After landing at Tracy Crooks, I decided to determine what the problem was.
It turns out that the discs in one tube
had broken loose of their jam nuts and were free wheeling like a turbine
blade inside the tube. Not only were the tips of the discs burnished but you
could clearly see the polishing effect of their rubbing against the inside of
the 3” tube. So that explained the high EGT on the one tube
(and the turbine sound reported) the discs were acting like a freewheeling prop
and impeding the flow of exhaust gas.
So I decided to reduce the number of discs
down to 3 and Tracy
was nice enough to weld the disc to the rod. Well, that seem to be the
answer. I was getting good power and good sound suppression still.
However, the discs only stayed welded to the rods for approx 2-3 weeks, and
then I began to find pieces of disc back by the end of the tube. The
pulse was too powerful and were slowly beating the stuffings out of the SS
blades on the discs and they were breaking off and leaving the tube .
By that time the expense (and more telling
- the work) of six experimentation with mufflers had taken their toll. I
decided to have my two tube header modified into one tube - turns out it cost
twice to modify the header as two hushpower mufflers. So I just
kept my old 10 year old header of stainless steel pipe and put on two hushpower
mufflers. Not as quite as my experimental design – but they have
lasted.
So good luck folks, I’m eagerly
awaiting the magic muffler design.
Ed
Ed
From: Rotary motors in aircraft
[mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Steitle
Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009
10:57 AM
To: Rotary
motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Mistral
muffler.
Thanks for the suggestion, but I initially felt that the Hushpower 2
was too heavy (10#/ea). I used it anyway out of desperation. So, I really
don't want to be dragging two of them around with me everywhere I go if I can
help it. I'm ready to give Al's design a try.
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