Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #4459
From: David Carter <dcarter@datarecall.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Core vs Radistor was Re: [FlyRotary] radiator
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:42:59 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
How would one contact John Slade and/or learn details of his plenum.?  Does
he have a website, is he on this list, where does he live (would like to
visit and see his plenum)?

I agree on importance of plenum - & exit.

I'm in final stage of negotiation with Van's "special order finish kits" and
Van's cowl vendor, M&W Fiberglass 503-538-0101 Mike (or Jerry/Gary), to get
a RV-6 cowl with only 1 hole - for prop/spinner, i.e., no holes for Lyc fin
cooling and no scoop below for carb induction.
   -  Plan to mount 2 a/c cores below engine for nearly "straight through"
air flow, with best plenum & exit I can design, starting witht the "blank
sheet of paper"/"blank cowl" and cut my own holes and epoxy on my own
fiberglass ducts into and out of the radiators.
   -  To have room under engine, psru, and eng mount, currently plan to use
"Haywire" S. Todd Bartrim's mounting method.
       --  Todd, can you send me the dwg files for you 4 "sub-mounts" that
attach to the engine?
   -  Since I'm a taildragger and not planning on floats and skiis like
Todd, I won't have any nosegear mounting hardware on my engine mount,
freeing up space where I want the a/c cores.
       -  Am in early stages of coordinating my special engine mount design
with Van's vendor Custom Components, Bruce McIntire, 253-272-5554 in Tacoma,
Washington.  I think he did Todd's.

David Carter


----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Sower" <canarder@frontiernet.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:39 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Core vs Radistor was Re: [FlyRotary] radiator


Paul,
I know John hasn't flown yet.  I don't know anything about Al's
design, but I have seen John's and I think he has an
exceptionally good plenum.  He also has a way to bypass his
radiators if they aren't needed (like in cruise).  PLENUM RULES
imo.  I personally am ambivalent around whether John's setup
will support turbocharging and air conditioning.  I DO think his
setup will be the best point of departure you are apt to find
for your airplane.  That was my point.  Steal his plenum.
Improve on it.  Look very seriously at AC cores for radiators.
Read the guy's article in the post before yours in CONTACT!  I
just think John's stuff will give you the best head start of
anything in my field of vision right now.
As best I can figure ... Jim S.



"sqpilot@earthlink" wrote:

> Hi, Jim....I've been closely monitoring the progress of John
> Slade.  Unfortunately, he hasn't flown yet, so we can't really
> know how well his cooling system might/might not perform.  Al
> Wick, on the other hand, has a couple hundred hours on his
> Cozy with a Subaru.  Unfortunately, it seems that the Subaru
> is probably easier to cool than the rotary. Oh well, back to
> square one.  Thanks for the direction and comments.   Paul
> Conner
>
>      ----- Original Message -----
>      From: Jim Sower
>      To: Rotary motors in aircraft
>      Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:11 AM
>      Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Core vs Radistor was Re:
>      [FlyRotary] radiator
>       <... come up with a radiator that could be placed
>      directly in front of the NACA duct, as Al Wick did
>      ..>
>      You probably need to talk to John Slade ... He has a
>      Cozy 13B, air and leather ... Jim S.
>
>      "sqpilot@earthlink" wrote:
>
>     >           Your knowledge of radiators
>     >           and cooling may be
>     >           limited....however, my
>     >           knowledge of radiators and
>     >           cooling could be written on
>     >           the head of a match. Thanks
>     >           for your valuable input, Ed.
>     >           I was trying to come up with a
>     >           radiator that could be placed
>     >           directly in front of the NACA
>     >           duct, as Al Wick did.  I will
>     >           probably go with a larger
>     >           radiator, EWP and fan.
>     >           Thanks again.  Paul Conner
>     >
--
Jim Sower
Crossville, TN; Chapter 5
Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T




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