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Reply-To: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
From: "David Carter" <dcarter@datarecall.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
References: <list-2754295@logan.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Core vs Radistor was Re: [FlyRotary] radiator
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:42:59 -0600
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How would one contact John Slade and/or learn details of his plenum.?  Does
he have a website, is he on this list, where does he live (would like to
visit and see his plenum)?

I agree on importance of plenum - & exit.

I'm in final stage of negotiation with Van's "special order finish kits" and
Van's cowl vendor, M&W Fiberglass 503-538-0101 Mike (or Jerry/Gary), to get
a RV-6 cowl with only 1 hole - for prop/spinner, i.e., no holes for Lyc fin
cooling and no scoop below for carb induction.
    -  Plan to mount 2 a/c cores below engine for nearly "straight through"
air flow, with best plenum & exit I can design, starting witht the "blank
sheet of paper"/"blank cowl" and cut my own holes and epoxy on my own
fiberglass ducts into and out of the radiators.
    -  To have room under engine, psru, and eng mount, currently plan to use
"Haywire" S. Todd Bartrim's mounting method.
        --  Todd, can you send me the dwg files for you 4 "sub-mounts" that
attach to the engine?
    -  Since I'm a taildragger and not planning on floats and skiis like
Todd, I won't have any nosegear mounting hardware on my engine mount,
freeing up space where I want the a/c cores.
        -  Am in early stages of coordinating my special engine mount design
with Van's vendor Custom Components, Bruce McIntire, 253-272-5554 in Tacoma,
Washington.  I think he did Todd's.

David Carter


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Sower" <canarder@frontiernet.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 11:39 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Core vs Radistor was Re: [FlyRotary] radiator


> Paul,
> I know John hasn't flown yet.  I don't know anything about Al's
> design, but I have seen John's and I think he has an
> exceptionally good plenum.  He also has a way to bypass his
> radiators if they aren't needed (like in cruise).  PLENUM RULES
> imo.  I personally am ambivalent around whether John's setup
> will support turbocharging and air conditioning.  I DO think his
> setup will be the best point of departure you are apt to find
> for your airplane.  That was my point.  Steal his plenum.
> Improve on it.  Look very seriously at AC cores for radiators.
> Read the guy's article in the post before yours in CONTACT!  I
> just think John's stuff will give you the best head start of
> anything in my field of vision right now.
> As best I can figure ... Jim S.
>
>
>
> "sqpilot@earthlink" wrote:
>
> > Hi, Jim....I've been closely monitoring the progress of John
> > Slade.  Unfortunately, he hasn't flown yet, so we can't really
> > know how well his cooling system might/might not perform.  Al
> > Wick, on the other hand, has a couple hundred hours on his
> > Cozy with a Subaru.  Unfortunately, it seems that the Subaru
> > is probably easier to cool than the rotary. Oh well, back to
> > square one.  Thanks for the direction and comments.   Paul
> > Conner
> >
> >      ----- Original Message -----
> >      From: Jim Sower
> >      To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> >      Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 9:11 AM
> >      Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Core vs Radistor was Re:
> >      [FlyRotary] radiator
> >       <... come up with a radiator that could be placed
> >      directly in front of the NACA duct, as Al Wick did
> >      ..>
> >      You probably need to talk to John Slade ... He has a
> >      Cozy 13B, air and leather ... Jim S.
> >
> >      "sqpilot@earthlink" wrote:
> >
> >     >           Your knowledge of radiators
> >     >           and cooling may be
> >     >           limited....however, my
> >     >           knowledge of radiators and
> >     >           cooling could be written on
> >     >           the head of a match. Thanks
> >     >           for your valuable input, Ed.
> >     >           I was trying to come up with a
> >     >           radiator that could be placed
> >     >           directly in front of the NACA
> >     >           duct, as Al Wick did.  I will
> >     >           probably go with a larger
> >     >           radiator, EWP and fan.
> >     >           Thanks again.  Paul Conner
> >     >
> --
> Jim Sower
> Crossville, TN; Chapter 5
> Long-EZ N83RT, Velocity N4095T
>
>