Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #42656
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator orientation?
Date: Thu, 1 May 2008 20:04:29 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
You are correct, Mark, Minimizing or eliminating laminar flow next to metal - in other words causing the laminar flow in the boundary layer to become turbulence does promote heat transfer.  It also increase skin friction and drag.  However, if the turbulence gets to the point of causing air flow separation then that hurts both cooling and the drag factor.  So like most other things involving aircraft - compromise is called for.
 
My cores are slanted - but, only because I could not fit them in the space I had allocated for them any other way.  Otherwise they would be perpendicular to the air flow.  Clearly slanted cores do work and most of the time we install them in that orientation due to space constraints or aesthetics as Pat Panzera indicated in his response.
 
If you use the Streamline duct approach to the duct design for a perpendicular core, it is easier to plot the coordinates and fabricate the duct - in my opinion.  My duct lengths are approx  3 1/2" on the short side and 6" on the long side making for a very short duct indeed. 
 
 However, I keep the duct cross sectional small until just before the core and then permit it to balloon into the bell or trumpet shape of the streamline duct.  This delays air flow separation and the pressure recovery (according to the theory) that causes it - until the last moment.  Separation does occur but it occurs up in the corners where it has minimal impact on air flow through most of the core.  In fact, the streamline duct equation even indicates at what angle of divergence of the flare causes separation.  It varies depending on the size of opening and size of core/ratio - but, generally the separation occurs above 65 deg of divergence and in some cases into 75 deg.
 
Some would disagree with this approach, but I have flow with it for years now and my cooling system appears close to optimum for my set up with minimum excessive cooling capacity and drag.  Your milage may vary of course (doesn't it always {:>))?
 
 
Ed
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Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 7:45 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator orientation?

Ed,

But doesn't "creating turbulence" improve heat exchanger efficiency?   I thought that was why they put corrugated fins on the cores. 

Mark S.


On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
Michael,

My view is that slanting a radiator does nothing better for you than one perpendicular to the air flow - except perhaps making it easier to fit a space constraint, it which case then go with a slanted radiator.

A slanted radiator (that has the same air flow and same frontal area) as a perpendicular radiator  is actually added going to have a bit more drag. The air flow must now make at least one (and possibly two turns) going into and out of the core channels creating turbulence and drag at those points. NOT that it is going to make a real significant difference at the airspeeds we fly.  So for that reason, a slanted radiator is certainly acceptable especially to meet installation constraints.

My 0.02

Ed




----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Silvius" <silvius@gwi.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 8:10 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator orientation?


Geroge:

In the end I will likely angle them a bit but my primary concern is if it is
ok to install these radiators in the vertical orientation. I have the space
up and down to use them this way. The nose bowl I have seems to work well
with things set up that way.

Michael




----- Original Message ----- From: "George Lendich" <lendich@optusnet.com.au>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2008 5:50 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: radiator orientation?



> Anyonene see any issues of concern with instaling the radiators in the
> vertical orientation as oposed to their normal orientation with the
inlets
> and outlet on the top. These are evaporator cores from a JMC Jimmy-
Chevy
> Blazer
>
> Michael in Maine

Michael,
The front adds significantly to the flat plate drag and anything you can
do
to reduce that affects the total drag. Are you happy with the front width,
could it be reduced with some angle on the rads?
George ( down under)


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