Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #37590
From: Bill Schertz <wschertz@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop loads on engine
Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 09:52:12 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Thanks Ed, I'll try that diagnosis
Bill
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Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 7:58 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Prop loads on engine

Bill, base on my experience and your rpm there is no doubt you need the larger prop as you clearly recognize. 
 
 Here is something you may want to check.  When my Coldstart function got turned on (without a switch being moved - long story) without me knowing it at the time -  my engine would bearly run with the manual mixture control turned full lean with both primary and secondary on.  When I turned off  the primary injectors it ran fine on the secondary only because, of course, there was 1/2 the fuel flow of the four injectors.  Your symptoms sound very much like mine.   One of my rotor EGTs would also nose dive.  Why just one, I am uncertain - you would think both. 
 
 The only thing I can think for you to check is to put a voltohm meter between the pin to the cold start switch on the control panel Pin 13 (probably could put it on the output pin of the EC2 pin 30 if that's easier) and ground.   With both injector switches ON there should be no ground at that pin it should show open on your voltohm meter (or a high resistance).  When you throw either injector switch off then that pin should  show a connection to ground.  If it shows a ground when the injector switches are OFF that could be your problem.  Actually, since I don't know the internal wiring of the EC2 this is just a SWAG on my part.  But, clearly if the cold start which functions when that pin is grounded - shows a ground with both switches ON then I would bet something is probably not right.
 
The other alternative is that one injector in the primary set is sticking open intermittently at lower rpm? 
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2007 8:27 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Prop loads on engine

I have made my third test run trying to sort things out. I concur on the need for a load on the engine.  I have borrowed a Sensenich (sp?) prop for the test runs, since my Catto prop has not arrived yet. It is 76x60, and must be severely under propped (76x88 on order).
 
I started the engine, throttle all the way back, then one turn forward. Engine RPM on EM-2 ~ 2800. Engine was running rich, max number of bars on mixture indicator. Tried leaning knob adjustment and it helped some.  Engine seemed to bog some so gave it one more turn forward, then started playing with injector switches. Turning off the primaries, engine smoothed out, and RPM shot up to almost 7000, this is with very little throttle opening! Mixture went lean, and leaning knob had significant effect. RPM would climb rapidly when I richened the mixture. I cannot get anywhere close to the 22" manifold pressure for some of the adjustments called for in the EC-2 manual. Will have to wait for the more aggressive prop.
 
You can see that Rotor 1 is bogging down until I shifted to Secondaries only on the EGT plots.
 
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