Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #37082
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Problem found and fixed.
Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 15:35:36 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Right, Bobby,  I even have an unused CB position right next to it - that would fit the role perfectly,  I even have an unused pin position in that plug - so just might not be too much trouble. 
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 4:02 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Problem found and fixed.

Well since your installing new gold pins anyway!
Bobby


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:56 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Problem found and fixed.

Hi Bobby,
 
Unfortunately, both of my coils are powered from the same CB.  There is no question in my mind now (if there was before {:>)) that was not a good design decision.  The smart thing is to power each ignition module through its own CB and power line.  I have the fuel pumps that way, don't know why I didn't think to do the ignition the same way.
 
Ed
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 3:06 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Problem found and fixed.

Ed,
 
Are you using one power lead for all coils or powering L /T separately?
 
Bobby


From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 11:11 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Problem found and fixed.

After my  uneventful 1600 mile detour through Louisiana after Sun & Fun, I went out several days later and could not start the engine.  Didn't have time to trouble shoot it then, but I did today.
 
The simulation modes were a great help.  If put the EC2 in mode 1 (fuel pumps off) and pushed the store button - the injectors clicked like mad.  I detached one sparkplug wire , placed a screw driver in it and laid it on the motor mount.  I put the EC2 in mode 8 (ignition) and pressed the store button - nothing, nada, not a spark.
 
So I started from the circuit breaker, confirmed I had voltage on each side.  Next was a Molex circular plug which connects the instrument panel wiring to the airframe, I have  6 of them.   I pulled the one which had the power line to the ignition coils and noticed that the power pin did not look bright and shiny as did the others.   I sprayed some Corrosion X on it and stuck it back on - the engine fired right up.
 
However, during the running it died  at low rpm, so I pulled the plug back off an got out my near vision glasses and noticed that not only did it not look shiny but it looked slightly pitted and corroded.  So I got out some fine sand paper and clean the pin and took a small fine tooth file and gentle "reamed" the socket.  Put it back together and that apparently did the job.  I wiggled the plug quite a bit while the engine was running and no further disruption of the ignition.
 
Lesson Learned? Well, way back when I was doing my wiring (hard to believe over a decade ago), I was faced with a choice of pins - tin or gold plated.  Well, need I say which one I went with - the tin ones, they were cheaper naturally.  Later on I decided to use gold plated pins/sockets for the critical circuits (of which this is one), but never went back and changed this one (after all I did want to fly in my life time).  
 
Perhaps Bob White can chime in here, my recommendation would be to go with the gold plated pins vice the tin plated on for critical systems especially where they might be exposed to weather (like the tip up canopy can do).   
 
Anyhow, back in running shape - I did pull all the remaining plugs and squirted some Xrossions on the pins.  None of the others had the dark/pitted look to them.
 
Those simulations modes are really an asset in trouble shooting.  Thought I would pass this on.
 
Ed
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