Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #35021
From: Wendell Voto <jwvoto@itlnet.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Yet another limp home story
Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 14:47:34 -0600
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 
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Sent: Friday, December 29, 2006 4:36 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Yet another limp home story

James Maher wrote:
> Steve,
>   This fuel tank has been in service for over 5 years and 18 hours of engine operation before this occurance.
>   The tank has been flushed several times over the years and the filters checked for debris.
>   It is only in the past year that I have started to notice the signs of deterioration.
>   
>   Ernest was on the fence about the fuel tank but now is leaning towards aluminum I think.
>   The other Delta Builder who is flying with a Mazda engine has an aluminum tank and has been flying for almost 4 years without incident.
>   
>  
Jim, I'm definitely going aluminum.  I'm working on building a form
right now, in the exact way that you built it for the glass layup.   
I'll lay a sheet of metal around it and beat in a 1/4" flange.  Another
sheet will wrap up from one side, across the top and down the other, cut
to shape and one long edge weld all the way around.  When I layup the
turtleback, I'll set the tank in place, run a fillet of flox around the
weld, then glass the weld in with about 40oz of glass tapes.  There will
only be a small amount of volume lost to empty space, and the load path
won't change.  I think it's as true to the plans as one can get without
having a glass tank.

>   If I had used polyester or vinal ester ,as some have pointed out this would not have been an issue as they are both impervious to auto fuel with ethanol.
>   This problem has caused me to re-think my entire fuel system.
>   It will be better.
>  
> Jim
>  
> Steve Brooks <cozy4pilot@gmail.com> wrote:
>        
>             James,
>   Sorry to hear about your problem.  I also have fiberglass fuel tanks on the Cozy, but when I did them, I coated the, with a sealant made by Jeffco, which is impervious to the various fuels out there.  Well, at least the ones they knew about back in 2002.
>   
>   I was pretty careful when I built mine, on getting all of the debris out as well, though I did check the fuel filters a couple of times in the first 10 hours, and also replace the one on the primary fuel every year during the conditional inspection.
>   
>   I know that I saw a post earlier by Ernest, who is also building a Delta.  He was going with an aluminum tank, I believe, on his plane.
>   
>   Steve Brooks
>   
>Just to clarify what I have in my Cozy tanks - I looked up the receipts and found that I used Pro-Set (not Proseal) 145 Epoxy with Pro-Set 226 hardener. I coated the walls with at least 2 coats and also used it to bond on the strake top (tank top) since the leading edge is always wet with fuel (nose down parking). 
I am considering making the sump out of aluminum. I haven't found any fuel with alcohol to test samples.The West System epoxy pasted a year soak in Dallas Tx. metro-mess auto fuel with no softening.
   On another note, I got the gauge sending unit Bob White had (30psi) to use for water pressure and used a VDO 0-80 psi gauge and changed to face to read 0-30 psi.  It sure is hard to get those new plastic housing gauges open.  Used a drawing program from Open Office to make the new readings and scratched to black portion of the face to allow light to shine thru and light up the paper made letters. It is a little bit dim, just hope it holds up - time will tell.
Wendell (now to get an engine mount for the Cozy)
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