Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #34699
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] redrive lube
Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:44:34 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Here's my take on it Kevin.
 
The main difference between manual & auto trans is the use of planetary gears.  This has pros & cons.  Pros include higher HP rating per pound (for planetaries) than other types due to the multiple tooth meshes involved and  no radial loads on sun and ring gears & bearings.  Cons include the fact that more gears & meshes means more heat generated (no free lunch) so a cooler is needed.   That is really the only Con I can think of.
 
ATF has to be optimized for the torque converter and clutches used in auto trans.   We do not need those compromises so synthetic oil is a better lubricant for our purposes. 
 
A pressurized system is needed in my drive due to the plain bearings used in some places (as Ken W. noted) and to spray the gears from the inside out to insure the oil gets where it needs to be.
 
An separate oil pump and cooler would work fine and would allow an even better choice of gear lube (George Graham is doing this) but it adds complexity, weight and failure modes.  Everything is a compromise. 
 
Once again,  even though there are several thousand hours of total test time on this design, it is still an experimental device and should be recognized as such.  There would have to be at least 10 units run through their expected TBO before they could be considered a thoroughly tested design.  This is the nature of Experimental aviation. 
 
Tracy Crook,    RWS
----- Original Message -----
From: kevin lane
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 12:39 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] redrive lube

i am asking this question with only the experience back in college years of putting a buick v-6 in a 1953 willys, no race car experience etc......
 
auto transmissions have special fluid and coolers because of the torque converters, right?  manual transmissions just have gear lube, which, it seems, you put in and basically forget about.  what is different about the PSRU redrive from a manual transmission?  why can't it be self-contained with gear lube and forgotten?  are planetary gears different from a manual transmission?  are they fed with an oil flow and coolers in trucks?  i'm sure all of this has already been answered and thought out.  ken said he keeps his redrive lube separate from the dirty engine oil.  why are tracy's redrives plumbed as part of the engine oil flow?   kevin (just curious)
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