Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #32450
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] damage report
Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:52:48 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Good catch Bill.   I also suggest getting into the habit of pulling the engine through 6 compression cycles on post flight checks once in awhile.  You will quickly develop the 'muscle memory' that will tell you right away if the compression is going screwy.  Compression is the best indicator for health of a rotary.
 
I agree with Lynn that it looks & sounds like possible detonation damage.  Always happens first on #2 rotor for reasons Ed gave.  Detonation is pretty rare on NA rotaries unless the ignition timing is too advanced.  Check it right away.   You have a fairly early EC2 and if you haven't already gotten them, I would gladly give you the latest upgrades in return for being one of the early pioneers crazy enough to try this stuff. 
 
BTW, is that oil control ring in the photo damaged or is that just some carbon & grease on it?
 
This is going to sound nuts at first glance but don't be too envious of those monstrous intake ports on 3rd gen, Cosmo, and 20B engines.  I think it is a very deceptive thing.  What you are seeing in them is an angled cross section of the port runner due to the almost vertical intake manifold entry angle on these engines.  If the runners are coming in more horizontally (like most of us are doing) the large external port opening represents a drastic change in cross sectional area which is a BAD thing.  Note that the actual port opening into the chamber is about the same as earlier 13Bs. 
 
Here is a picture of what I am doing on my 20B to keep runner area constant until it gets to the port entry to chamber.  I used a piece of thin aluminum to sleeve down the port.  The upper part above the sleeve was later filled with epoxy filler. 
 
Tracy Crook
 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 10:30 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] damage report

Quick report:  With over 400 hours on my engine, I was in the process of testing the pressure differential across various points on my cowl in search of more effective outlet for cooling air.
 
The idle has been getting rough for the last several weeks, and my testing runs made me think it was getting worse.  Since we all know it is important to "listen" to your engine when it is speaking to you, I started (again) to try to track down the cause.  New plugs would help but only for a few minutes.  Tried switching coils and injectors on and off, but no change.  Seemed to be running very rich at idle no matter what I did.  Manual leaning would not make it smooth, but it would kill the engine!  All was smooth above about 2500 rpm.
 
Finally pulled the schrader valve from my compression tester and spun it with the starter.  Rotor one was a nice 100-100-100 for bumps.  Rotor 2 was 60-60-85.  Oops.  Looks like a bad apex seal?
 
Just tore it down today and attached is a photo of the broken apex seal. Also found a chip from the outer (compression side) oil seal on that rotor.  Not shown are the SIX missing (melted??) rubber plugs from the corner seals, and two corner seal wire springs that are completely missing!  The ones remaining are completely flat and looked like they were disintegrating from heat.
 
Rotor one looked to be in good shape all around.  Rubber plugs were hardened, but still functioning, and the wire springs were springing.
 
I can see that maybe if the rubber plugs melted, it would allow the small triangular part of the apex seal to drop down and somehow allow the longer piece to break.  Does this sound reasonable?
 
LARGER QUESTION:  It is obvious to me that a LOT of heat was generated to melt the rubber plugs on BOTH sides of the rotor.  Does anyone care to venture a guess as to why that rotor was so much hotter than the other?  The EGTs were within a few degrees most of the time.  I will double check the oil jet that cools the rotor tomorrow.
 
(Jason just about has his 3rd gen back together.  I am eyeing the size of his intake ports....................)
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