Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #32232
From: John <downing.j@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] OT: Concrete forms
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 2006 17:29:59 -0400
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Finn;  Been gone for three weeks, so far behind.  Make a box for the concrete and pour horizontal,  concrete can weight 3500 lbs a yard and it takes one heck of a box to pour vertical.  JohnD
----- Original Message ----- From: "Finn Lassen" <finn.lassen@verizon.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 06, 2006 11:40 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] OT: Concrete forms


This is only remotely related to rotaries (home of my future
rotary-powered RV-4) so please reply off-list.

After having worked for three weekends putting up block and only having
done 1 1/2 corners out of 3 so far, I'm seriously considering building
forms and having the 9 16x16" columns poured rather that building them
up with 16x16" column blocks.

If anybody here on the list are familiar with making concrete forms, I
sure could use some advice.
Columns will be 8' 8" tall and will be supporting 10' long 8x8" lintels
with a row of lintel blocks on top.

How thick does the plywood have to be to handle a 8'8" tall 16x16"
column of concrete?

I'm considering using my future 2x4 or 2x6 frame wall studs to form the
outside corners of the forms - two along each corner of the form screwed
together (8 per form).

Another issue is the option of tapering the columns: 16x16 at bottom
tapering to 8x16" at top. In my mind that would not change the structual
strength of the columns; would save concrete (25%) and possibly require
less hefty plywood.

I sure could use some advice on both counts.

Keywords here are "cheaper" and "easier".

16x16" column blocks are now $3.21 a piece - 13 per column.
The extra concrete to replace one block is about $2.60 (or  $1.95 if
tapering the columns).
So I'd mainly just be paying  for the plywood for the forms - seems
worthwhile compared to the work of "stacking" the 117 column blocks.
Ideally the forms would also be able to support the lintels and lintel
blocks so everything could be poured in one go.

Finn



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