Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #30312
From: Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com>
Subject: : Why do this? / was Another Rotary failure.
Date: Fri, 17 Feb 2006 11:52:10 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Hi Bernie,
 
My view is that if you do not feel comfortable flying behind a rotary engine then, you are certainly making the right decision.  After all, given the expense involved in flying - if its not fun then why do it at all.  It is experimental and there is no (at this stage) standard configuration, so each one is an experiment in itself.
 
Hate to see you give up the rotary after all the work you have put in on it.  But, certainly if your spouse will not fly with you in it - then certainly limits the amount of enjoyment.
You gotta do what makes you feel comfortable.
 
FWIW
 
Ed
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 11:35 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Why do this? / was Another Rotary failure.

Yes, flying is a risky business! We all believe we have a better mousetrap, especially an engineer with 33 years in the turbojet design business. If I had to do over, I would copy Tracy to nth detail since he has been very sucessful at it. My installation has worked fine, but believe it would be safer with Tracy's tried and proven system. My biggest disappointment has been my lack of confidence in going distant places because I see Ed rebuilding an engine in LA, Dave hauling an airplane back from N CA to S CA, and now Chuck for the 2nd time. I know we can and will explain the problems. The rotary is basically a more dependable peice of equipment, but I was more comfortable with a Lycoming which I flew to places that were not nice to stop in such as over Mount Redoubt and Cook's Inlet in Alaska. It is interesting and it would be fun to have a 3 or 4 to experiment and play around with a rotary, if you are young and energetic!
 
More power to all of you who are blazing the future of aviation with alternative engines, but once again with family and time considerations believe I would benefit from a lycoming. Do you wish to swap out your 4 engine for a rotary Charlie? Or is there anyone else out there with a lycoming O-320 who would like to swap installations.
 
Bernie
 
On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 09:24:12 -0500 "Tracy Crook" <lors01@msn.com> writes:
Interesting, yes, but I doubt it would be encouraging.  I fully acknowledge that this is undoubtedly a relatively risky venture.  Just as private flying is relatively risky compared to commercial flying. 
 
This is a synopsis of the message I give anyone who asks me about the pros & cons of installing an alternative engine:
 
In choosing to do this, you are betting your life that you have the necessary skills and knowledge to develop a one of a kind aircraft propulsion system - not a trivial task, and a far greater challenge than using time proven systems based on conventional aircraft engines.   If your primary goal is to build an aircraft and fly it safely,  buy an aircraft engine from a reputable source and install it to the best of your abilities.   Do not consider cost as the primary reason for doing otherwise.  Only if you have some 'Fire in the Belly' to power your aircraft with some alternative should you even consider it.  If you do, there is no better alternative than the Mazda rotary.  
 
The up-side is the satisfaction gained from successfully meeting the challenge - it is beyond description.   If you save a nickel in the process, consider it a small bonus.
 
Tracy
 
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another rotary failure

A very interesting comparison would be accident/incident rates for experimental with certified engines vs experimental with ‘alternative’ engines.

 

Al

 

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another rotary failure

 

Rusty,

Couple of years ago we lost 3 Cozy's within few months due to Lycoming engine problems. Not landing with engine problem, but total lost of all 3 aircraft. Nobody said a word. Like it was the most ordinary thing?

Bulent "Buly" Aliev

Ser# 066 / N484BD



 

On Feb 13, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Russell Duffy wrote:

 



 

On the subject of failures in general, am I the only one who thinks there have just been way too many of these in the last couple years?  In virtually every case, the engine has been the victim, rather than the cause of the problem, but to the casual observer, it looks bad for the rotary.  I'd hate to calculate the number of flight hours per serious problem for currently flying rotaries.  I'd also hate for the insurance companies to do it.  Let's hope this trend doesn't continue.  

 

Cheers,

Rusty (one rotor, no prop) 



 

 
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