Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #29893
From: Tracy Crook <lors01@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Suitability of NPG for Rotary Engine use
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 16:38:11 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
 
 


On 2/1/06, Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
You are right, Jesse - no conflict here.  If both a reciprocating engine ( which is normally a iron block(or steel sleeve inserts) with an aluminum piston) and a rotary loose coolant, my bet is the iron block will at some point seize from overheating.  Because the aluminum piston will expand faster than the iron/steel due to the heat.  Just the opposite with a rotary (as at least two/three folks have proven), the aluminum housing expands (and some compression/power is lost) faster than the iron rotor - so no seizing even though the engine is cooked.  
 
Never said you wouldn't damage a rotary with a loss of coolant, just that it would keep running as long as then engine had fire and fuel.  Landing with a damaged engine with some power available beats dead sticking in a seized engine in my opinion.
 
Ed
 
In my limited experience of overheating rotary engines and then dead sticking onto freeways, you can expect about 4 minutes from inital overheat to complete loss of engine power.  The engine will not seize, but the complete loss of compression will prevent any power production.
 
I invite other to verify my data  :-)
 
--
Dave Leonard
Turbo Rotary RV-6 N4VY
I think TTDS (time till dead stick) in a loss of coolant scenario depends on a lot of factors. After replacing a broken tension bolt during a Texas RV fly-in, the coolant pressure cap failed to seal up due to a mod I did to the filler neck (long story).   I though the pressure looked low on takeoff but ignored it (dumb, dumb) because temperature was just fine.  It stayed that way for about 12 minutes.  I was pleasantly zoned out when the overtemp alarm went off.  My first instinct was to throttle back to low power (I was at about 5000 feet by then) to protect the health of the engine.  GPS showed that I was 6 minutes away from nearest airport and the engine was running nicely when I shut down after landing.  Was at at very low power the whole time after the alarm since I was essentially gliding. 
 
After topping off with straight water and fixing my cap problem I flew back to Florida with no problems and the engine did not suffer any damage at all.   If I had not throttled way back I'm sure it would have been a very different story though.
 
Tracy
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