Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #28282
From: Steve Brooks <prvt_pilot@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:05:04 -0500
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I used to be on the "other" list, also when I was trying to educate myself
on the rotary engine, and formulate a design.  I didn't get involuntarily
removed, but after a while, I requested to drop off that list, because there
was much more pontification than aviation.  I did glean a few crumbs from
PL, but the was certainly allot of chaff to sift through to get those few
grains of wheat.  There were a few posts that I sent that got  a response
from PL, rather than being posted to the group, so that list is very edited.

If it were not for the people on this list, I would probably still not had a
successful rotary installation.

The Flyrotary group is an assortment of people, with different skills, but
all are either flying a rotary aircraft, or soon will be.

I trust the opinion of someone who has "been there...done that" versus the
"blue sky..what-if" crowd.

Just my .02

Steve Brooks



-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On
Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:54 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication


Ed's right; people should be able to have knock down, drag out
disagreements about the subject at hand & even tolerate abuse in the
interest of advancing the knowledge base, then sit down & eat a meal or
have a drink together. Ed and I can certify that this is possible, right Ed?

Censorship, personal attacks, banishing members outright because they
disagree with your position, etc all work counter to the purpose of
these lists & make this hobby more dangerous because peer review is
effectively killed.

I suspect that you would be shocked if you could see  a head count of
all the people on this list who have been involuntarily banned from the
other list.

You might be right about this particular banishment, but based on
statistical odds, my money is on the other guy's version.

Charlie
banned 2003 (I think)

Ed Anderson wrote:

You may be right, Jerry.  But, its not only what is communicated
that's important but how its communicated that can make a difference.
Especially using e mails as the conduct.
 In any case, derogatory comments and/or abusive language from
"adults" is unexceptable behavior in most company.  Don't know if it
happened in this case, but  I know it happens,  because I've been on
the receiving end.

Ed A

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Jerry Hey <mailto:jerryhey@earthlink.net>
    To: Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
    Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:37 PM
    Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication

    Remember that you have only heard one person's version,  I know
    the entire history and think Paul Lamar was being very helpful to
    Bill.  Sometimes when the facts are not what we hoped, anger is
    the response.  Bill is free to do what he wants but he got good
    advice from Paul Lamar that he should consider once he has had
    time to cool down.
    This is my first and last comment on this issue.   Jerry






    On Dec 7, 2005, at 4:15 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com <mailto:wrjjrs@aol.com>
    wrote:

     Just your opinion, but I like it!
    Bill Jepson

    Too bad, he can be a nice and personable fellow when not threatened.

    Just my opinion of course, not a trained psychiatrist, although I
    did sleep at a Holiday Inn once or twice.

    Ed A






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