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Truly it is, Charlie - amongst friend for sure! I love a good debate and certainly understand they came some time become "intense" - but I still stand by my opinion that being personally abusive is an entirely different (and lower) level of conduct (in my opinion of course). Now, if a person feels putting up a an abusive personality is worth the abuse, then that is their concern and certainly none of my business.
Its been said you only learn something new from your mistakes. I wish I had all the answers, but even at the rate I make mistakes, I'm really dependent on others making those I can't find time for and hopefully informing us all{:>). I think what is really great about this list, is no one is humiliated for bringing forth their "mistakes" , "Stupid ideas", or "Really dumb statements", (well, not much anyhow {:>)) and therefore there is a willingness to share the good, the bad and the ugly (for the most part). This benefits us all.
Ed
From: "Charlie England" <ceengland@bellsouth.net>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:54 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication
Ed's right; people should be able to have knock down, drag out disagreements about the subject at hand & even tolerate abuse in the interest of advancing the knowledge base, then sit down & eat a meal or have a drink together. Ed and I can certify that this is possible, right Ed?
Censorship, personal attacks, banishing members outright because they disagree with your position, etc all work counter to the purpose of these lists & make this hobby more dangerous because peer review is effectively killed.
I suspect that you would be shocked if you could see a head count of all the people on this list who have been involuntarily banned from the other list.
You might be right about this particular banishment, but based on statistical odds, my money is on the other guy's version.
Charlie
banned 2003 (I think)
Ed Anderson wrote:
You may be right, Jerry. But, its not only what is communicated that's important but how its communicated that can make a difference. Especially using e mails as the conduct.
In any case, derogatory comments and/or abusive language from "adults" is unexceptable behavior in most company. Don't know if it happened in this case, but I know it happens, because I've been on the receiving end. Ed A
----- Original Message -----
From: Jerry Hey <mailto:jerryhey@earthlink.net>
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:37 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication
Remember that you have only heard one person's version, I know
the entire history and think Paul Lamar was being very helpful to
Bill. Sometimes when the facts are not what we hoped, anger is
the response. Bill is free to do what he wants but he got good
advice from Paul Lamar that he should consider once he has had
time to cool down.
This is my first and last comment on this issue. Jerry
On Dec 7, 2005, at 4:15 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com <mailto:wrjjrs@aol.com>
wrote:
Just your opinion, but I like it!
Bill Jepson
Too bad, he can be a nice and personable fellow when not threatened.
Just my opinion of course, not a trained psychiatrist, although I
did sleep at a Holiday Inn once or twice.
Ed A
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