X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [24.25.9.102] (HELO ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.0.3) with ESMTP id 867659 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Dec 2005 22:12:20 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.25.9.102; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Received: from edward2 (cpe-024-074-025-165.carolina.res.rr.com [24.74.25.165]) by ms-smtp-03-eri0.southeast.rr.com (8.12.10/8.12.7) with SMTP id jB83BSfU029576 for ; Wed, 7 Dec 2005 22:11:29 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002101c5fba5$15540290$2402a8c0@edward2> From: "Ed Anderson" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 22:11:28 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Virus-Scanned: Symantec AntiVirus Scan Engine Truly it is, Charlie - amongst friend for sure! I love a good debate and certainly understand they came some time become "intense" - but I still stand by my opinion that being personally abusive is an entirely different (and lower) level of conduct (in my opinion of course). Now, if a person feels putting up a an abusive personality is worth the abuse, then that is their concern and certainly none of my business. Its been said you only learn something new from your mistakes. I wish I had all the answers, but even at the rate I make mistakes, I'm really dependent on others making those I can't find time for and hopefully informing us all{:>). I think what is really great about this list, is no one is humiliated for bringing forth their "mistakes" , "Stupid ideas", or "Really dumb statements", (well, not much anyhow {:>)) and therefore there is a willingness to share the good, the bad and the ugly (for the most part). This benefits us all. Ed From: "Charlie England" To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 8:54 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication > Ed's right; people should be able to have knock down, drag out > disagreements about the subject at hand & even tolerate abuse in the > interest of advancing the knowledge base, then sit down & eat a meal or > have a drink together. Ed and I can certify that this is possible, right > Ed? > > Censorship, personal attacks, banishing members outright because they > disagree with your position, etc all work counter to the purpose of these > lists & make this hobby more dangerous because peer review is effectively > killed. > > I suspect that you would be shocked if you could see a head count of all > the people on this list who have been involuntarily banned from the other > list. > > You might be right about this particular banishment, but based on > statistical odds, my money is on the other guy's version. > > Charlie > banned 2003 (I think) > > Ed Anderson wrote: > >> You may be right, Jerry. But, its not only what is communicated that's >> important but how its communicated that can make a difference. >> Especially using e mails as the conduct. >> In any case, derogatory comments and/or abusive language from "adults" >> is unexceptable behavior in most company. Don't know if it happened in >> this case, but I know it happens, because I've been on the receiving >> end. Ed A >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Jerry Hey >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 4:37 PM >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Another Excommunication >> >> Remember that you have only heard one person's version, I know >> the entire history and think Paul Lamar was being very helpful to >> Bill. Sometimes when the facts are not what we hoped, anger is >> the response. Bill is free to do what he wants but he got good >> advice from Paul Lamar that he should consider once he has had >> time to cool down. >> This is my first and last comment on this issue. Jerry >> >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 7, 2005, at 4:15 PM, wrjjrs@aol.com >> wrote: >> >>> Just your opinion, but I like it! >>> Bill Jepson >>> Too bad, he can be a nice and personable fellow when not >>> threatened. >>> Just my opinion of course, not a trained psychiatrist, although I >>> did sleep at a Holiday Inn once or twice. >>> Ed A >>> >> >> > > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net/lists/flyrotary/ >