Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #21244
From: Jim Sower <canarder@frontiernet.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's new rotor housings
Date: Sun, 01 May 2005 23:32:44 -0500
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
That would be interesting to delve into.  What is the LG motor rated at?  And the CB that tripped?  If the CB was, say, twice the rating of the motor, and it still blew (and reset successfully) then I may very well have to revisit my premises.  Also if there is evidence that (gawd forbid) fuel pumps get hot enough to draw way over their rated current and trip breakers while still capable of working.
Let's look into this ... Jim S.

sqpilot@bellsouth.net wrote:

Hi, Jim....I'm thinking that the landing gear motor is also not a delicate item, but once it overheated, it tripped the circuit breaker. After the motor cooled, the reset circuit breaker allowed the gear to be cycled to the down position.  Can a fuel pump also overheat and trip a breaker or blow a fuse?  I don't know the answer to that question.  Paul Conner
 

    ----- Original Message -----
    *From:* Jim Sower <mailto:canarder@frontiernet.net>
    *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft <mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
    *Sent:* Sunday, May 01, 2005 10:46 PM
    *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: Ed's new rotor housings

    I'm not convinced of the utility of Circuit Breakers for flight
    critical systems.  I would put each of my fuel pumps, the EFIs and
    what have you on dedicated circuits, each protected with a HEAVY
    fuse.  My objective is not to protect my fuel pump in case of a
    surge.  It's a flight critical component, so I'm going to allow it
    to go while it can.  The fuse is waaaay heavier than the pump (or
    whatever) draws, and is meant to protect the wire going to the
    mechanism rather than the mechanism itself.  I do not regard fuel
    pumps as delicate items, so I don't intend to protect them from
    transient surges and the like.  I will ride it 'till it drops, and
    the fuse will blow shortly before the wire melts.

    Delicate avionics I might very well protect with CBs.  These might
    need to be protected from transient surges/voltage spikes (from
    whence I cannot say since I have OV protection on my alternator)
    and the like.

    Heavy duty, robust components like fuel pumps need no such
    coddling IMO ... Jim S.


    WALTER B KERR wrote:

    John Slade wrote:
         My understanding is that the pumps, at least the ones I'm using
    (or at least WAS using when I used to be able to fly this #@#$ing
    <mailto:#@#$ing> thing, long ago), are designed to run
    continuously. I have one Walbro Inline fuel pump-GSL393 (from
    Tracy) and one Walbro Inline fuel pump-GSL394 from Lightning
    Motorsports. Both have metal screw in connectors which fit AN
    adapters. They're fused at 20 amps.
         ----------------------------------------------------------------------
         OK, I'll stir the pot some more. I am not an electrical engineer,
    but I do understand the power of redunancy!
         I will take two separately fused circuits over 1 circuit breaker
    every day of the week. If there is a short in my one device or in
    the power supply lines, I do not wish to be starting a fire by
    resetting circuit breakers while looking for a glider port. I
    know there are rotary powered airplanes out there that depend on
    one circuit breaker for the entire electrical engine power source
    that have many, many more hours of rotary time than me, but I
    sleep better have two parallel circuits bringing electrical power
    to my fused engine buss and then reduntant pumps on entirely
    separate fused circuits. My pumps are both checked during run up
    and both on during T/O and landing.
         Bernie

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