Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #14838
From: DaveLeonard <daveleonard@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] IAS and Vne! Whoa!
Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2005 05:53:46 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Well that's just great.  Makes sense now that you bring it up.  Anyone want to buy a turbocharged RV-6?  I guess I don't need those 12" numbers after all ;-)
 
Dave Leonard
-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]On Behalf Of Ed Anderson
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 7:56 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] IAS and Vne! Whoa!

In Van's RvAtor mag there is an eye-opening article on Vne (never exceed airspeed).  We all (most?) have it marked on our Indicated Airspeed Gauges with the Red Line along with our stall speeds, flap extension limits, turbulent air limits, etc. 
 
Well, it appears that all of the other  airspeed limits mentioned are a function of the "Q" factor (aerodynamic pressure) as is our Indicated Airspeed. As the relative Q changes with changing airspeed/altitude those limits stay in sync with the indicator.   So most of us (I know I did) assumed the Vne on the indicated airspeed is also a function of the "Q" factor.  Apparently Vne is NOT, it is a factor of True Airspeed!!
 
Normally this does not mean much, BUT, if you are turbocharging your aircraft and intend to fly at altitudes greater than 10,000 ft (especially with a turbocharged engine which can give you sea level power) it can be very important.  The reason is that Indicated airspeed continues to decrease (for a constant true airspeed) as altitude increases(air density decreases).  However, in most cases our True airspeed increases somewhat with altitude.  Van apparently figures that with a normally aspired engine your power decrease would limit your true airspeed potential to below Vne (at those higher altitudes)  - but, if you have the power (turbocharged) to give you a higher airspeed then there could be a potential problem.
 
The bottom line is that at the higher altitudes your indicated airspeed gauge can be showing you safely below the Red Vne mark but, your True Airspeed may be exceeding Vne by a considerably margin putting your airframe in a potentially danger zone of flutter.
 
Just though I would pass it on.  The full article is in the latest Rvator and was a response to folks asking about turbocharging the engine for the RV-10 to make it a high speed long range cruiser. 
 
 The rest of you may have been aware of this difference, but I know I was not.
 
FWIW
 
Ed
 
 
Ed Anderson
Rv-6A N494BW Rotary Powered
Matthews, NC
eanderson@carolina.rr.com
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