Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #12534
From: DaveLeonard <daveleonard@cox.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] IFR currency was Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-) (unofficially)
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:27:12 -0800
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
I agree with you guys on one level.  I never plan to intentionally fly into
icing-like conditions or around big imbedded towering cu.  There is also
no-doubt a currency factor that should play a big role.

But on the other hand, having the additional training will only be helpful
give your personal weather decisions.  I have also spent my share of time in
inadvertent IMC where I was afraid to contact ATC for fear of getting in
trouble.  Being legal, separated from other traffic, and better trained is
never a bad thing.

I had been waiting on getting my ticket until my RV-6 was flying.  Now it
is, so last week I took the written.  First flight coming soon, practicing
on the computer.  Bluemountain EIFS lite G3 paid for - to redundantize the
panel.  (check out this newest bit of gear from an ex-rotor head.
www.bluemountainavionics.com )

Dave Leonard



Steve,

    You made the point I felt about myself.  If I weren't going to stay
current (unlikely) then having the ticket just might be enough to tempt me
to do something that could end up getting me killed.

  Lets' face it - by flying experimental aircraft with
experimental engines
we have already moved the risk factor up the scale a notch or two.  I
personally like to keep the other risk factors (within my control) on the
lower side {:>)

Ed

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Brooks" <prvt_pilot@yahoo.com>
To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 10:04 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-) (unofficially)


> Ed,
> Actually I have an instrument rating, but the guy who
> had the Bonaza wasn't current, and I wouldn't want to
> fly an unfamiliar aircraft in actual IMC.  Especially
> as bad as it was here 1-1/2 vis w/ 500 ft ceiling.
> Not very good conditions, especially since I haven't
> flown in actual IMC in 2 years.  Not a good place to
> pick back up.
>
> Steve Brooks
> --- Ed Anderson <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bulent Aliev" <atlasyts@bellsouth.net>
> > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft"
> > <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 4:58 PM
> > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: 3000 fpm :-) (unofficially)
> >
> >
> > > On 10/31/04 3:54 PM, "Ed Anderson"
> > <eanderson@carolina.rr.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Steve, good to hear from you.
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I always looked at the weather in SC just
> > to see if I did get off
> > what
> > > > it would be like a bit further south.  Generally
> > the fog didn't start to
> > > > lift until near the Georgia border.
> > >
> > > You guys have one year to get your instrument
> > rating. Last year we had 6
> > > rotary powered airplanes. This year two? We are
> > going backwards?
> > > Fin is the only one with real coconuts to fly in
> > even if the tower told
> > him
> > > it is IFR (or fly period :) It was a great
> > gathering as usual and we thank
> > > Tracy and Laura for the hospitality and Laura's
> > parents for landing them
> > > their beautiful house.
> > > Bulent
> > >
> >
> > Ah! I see we are now using Finn's coconuts as the
> > standard- are we?.  Well,
> > this old ape is content to let the young ones with
> > the big coconuts fly in
> > that kind of weather.  Probably why you only see
> > small coconuts on old apes
> > {:>)
> >
> > Two winters ago I stupidly got myself in situation
> > (clear Wx was being
> > reported behind a cold front) flying at 8000 ft and
> > trying to go over the
> > tops of a "few clouds". I ended up spending 15-20
> > minutes in solid IFR and
> > ice.  Ice formed on the canopy and in front of each
> > fuel cap on the wing.
> > Fortunately had pitot heat and remembered to turn it
> > on before it was too
> > late.  yes, I did the 180 thing but the weather had
> > build up behind me
> > quickly.
> >
> > Staying on the AI, altimeter and GPS, I was finally
> > able to get down and
> > below the weather at 1800 MSL.   I finally landed
> > minus radio antenna (that
> > the ice took off) just  north of Atlanta.   The
> > first thing I saw when I
> > staggered into the FBO's office through the blowing
> > snow was an article
> > posted to their reading board about the average time
> > a non-instrument rated
> > pilot lasted in IFR conditions was a few seconds
> > short of 3 minutes. The
> > experience and the article was  enough to shrink any
> > oversized coconuts
> > this old ape may have had. {:>)
> >
> > My plane is instrumented for IFR (fortunately) and I
> > actually completed the
> > instrument ground school and passed the FAA ground
> > test just before I
> > retired.  I then decided that there was probably
> > risk in me completing an
> > obtaining an IFR rating.  If you don't stay current
> > - I think you are
> > fooling yourself and just might end up in a
> > situation beyond your current
> > capabilities.
> >
> > Sorry, I didn't make it and missed seeing all you
> > folks that did, but hope
> > to make it next year.  Now if Tracy got a GPS
> > approach for Shady Bend {:>)
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> > Ed Anderson.
> >
> >
> >
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