Return-Path: Received: from pop3.olsusa.com ([63.150.212.2] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5b3) with ESMTP id 860853 for rob@logan.com; Mon, 03 Sep 2001 12:40:57 -0400 Received: from wind.imbris.com ([216.18.130.7]) by pop3.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-71866U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 12:27:03 -0400 Received: from regandesigns.com (cda131-232.imbris.com [216.18.131.232]) by wind.imbris.com (8.11.5/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f83GaCK71263 for ; Mon, 3 Sep 2001 09:36:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B9395B5.909138@regandesigns.com> Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2001 09:37:41 -0500 From: Brent Regan MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lancair List Subject: Fw: Lycoming light weight starter Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Reply-To: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> As it was explained to me by Bill at B&C the solenoid on the starter has two functions. It actuates the bendix drive AND it closes the contacts for the starter motor. Given the mass of the bendix and the need to close the contacts quickly and firmly, this solenoid necessarily has a very high inrush current. It's average current is a couple of amps but its peak inrush current may be as high as 30 amps. This is why aircraft starter switches fry regularly. Why some people use key starter switches is a mystery to me. They are expensive and unreliable and trivially easy to hot wire. You never see them in larger aircraft. "Excuse me ladies and gentlemen but the captain informed me that there will be a delay in our departure until he can find the keys to our airplane." I replaced the ignition switch with two toggle switches and a hidden switch. If you are worried about security, someone tried to break into my IV-P with absolutely no success. The bank vault cabin door resisted all efforts to pry it open. Two tiny paint chips were the only damage. It took longer to clean off the finger printing dust the sheriff used than to touch up the door jam. The better way to do things is to jumper the solenoid coil back to the solenoid battery terminal (the big one) and then use a separate solenoid on the airframe to run the starter. In practice the airframe starter solenoid is activated by the ignition switch which in turn activates the starter's solenoid. This keeps the inrush current to the ignition switch down to around 10 amps instead of 30. Diodes or transorbs across the solenoid coil provide a current path for the flyback current when the ignition switch is opened (thus reducing arcing). My airplane has the master solenoid and the starter solenoid in series so that if I ever weld the starter solenoid I can interrupt the current to the starter by turning off the master. Regards Brent Regan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>