X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:51:33 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-yk0-f169.google.com ([209.85.160.169] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6736072 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 10:24:32 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.160.169; envelope-from=mwsletten@gmail.com Received: by mail-yk0-f169.google.com with SMTP id 142so29866047ykq.0 for ; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:23:58 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.82.46 with SMTP id n34mr27083181yhe.25.1392650637391; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:23:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.170.142.84 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Feb 2014 07:23:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2014 09:23:57 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: Subject: Re: [LML] O2 bottles From: Mark Sletten X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf301b65e789bce204f29bbe01 --20cf301b65e789bce204f29bbe01 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Size? --Mark On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM, John C. Bohn wrote: > I have two portable O2 bottles for sale from my LNC2 days. Excellent > condition. > > > John C. Bohn > Direct (Cell) +1 503.887.2933 <+1%20503.887.2933> > Sent via a smartphone > > > -------- Original message -------- > From: Lancair Mailing List > Date: 02/17/2014 5:01 AM (GMT-06:00) > To: > Subject: lml Digest #4523 > > > I did not know a domestic cat could scream loud enough to hurt it's > hearing. ;) > > Jeff > > On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote: > > Valium or Zoloff. Of course, with Zoloff the creature may commit > homicide, suicide or both. > > Blue Skies > > In a message dated 2/14/2014 1:03:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, > doramsey@gmail.com writes: > > Does anyone have any experience transporting a cat in a carrier in their > airplane? I have no knowledge as to whether the noise level would be > detrimental to a cat? The options for the cat are a 3.5 hour car ride in a > carrier or a 45 minute plane ride in a carrier. Would appreciate feedback. > > Anything detrimental to the cat is OK. (Allergic) > > Dominic V. Crain > domcrain@tpg.com.au > Phone 03-94161881 > Mobile 0412-359320 > > On 15 Feb 2014, at 10:38, Sky2high@aol.com wrote: > > Valium or Zoloff. Of course, with Zoloff the creature may commit > homicide, suicide or both. > > Blue Skies > > In a message dated 2/14/2014 1:03:18 P.M. Central Standard Time, > doramsey@gmail.com writes: > > Does anyone have any experience transporting a cat in a carrier in their > airplane? I have no knowledge as to whether the noise level would be > detrimental to a cat? The options for the cat are a 3.5 hour car ride in a > carrier or a 45 minute plane ride in a carrier. Would appreciate feedback. > > > Does anyone have a 235 mount they would like to sell. I have one for a > customer to repair and it might be cheaper for him to find a serviceable > one. > Thanks, > Swaid Rahn > Dennis, > > While the mental image of your cat's face in a 200-mph wind may seem > hilarious, there might be a better option than super glue. Dramamine is an > effective palliative against motion sickness. It also happens to be a great > sedative, and safe for cats. > > http://www.drjeffnichol.com/?p=1696 > > --Mark > > > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Dennis Ramsey wrote: > >> Does anyone have any experience transporting a cat in a carrier in their >> airplane? I have no knowledge as to whether the noise level would be >> detrimental to a cat? The options for the cat are a 3.5 hour car ride in a >> carrier or a 45 minute plane ride in a carrier. Would appreciate feedback. >> > > Many interesting and informative posts about flying high. Here's my 2 > cents' worth: > > 1. I think Bill misspoke when he advocated the use of a pressurized mag > above 18,000. With a naturally aspirated engine the spark plug firing > voltage drops as the altitude (and manifold pressure) drop, so it is no > more likely to cross-fire at altitude than at sea level. With a > turbocharged engine you have a completely different story - pressurizing > the mags is almost necessary. > > 2. Any ignition system that advances the ignition timing at low manifold > pressure will give a significant advantage in power at high altitude - more > so as the altitude goes above even 8,000 feet.. When the altitude gets > above maybe 15,000 the advantage becomes huge. Anyone that is planning to > fly long distances at high altitude with a naturally aspirated engine would > be foolish not to consider electronic ignition on at least one of the two > mags. My thinking is that electronic ignition on one side is worthwhile > from 12,000 to 17,000 and you need it on both sides above 18,000. > > 3. Filling your O2 bottle from a welding tank is worthwhile in two ways: > It is cheaper, but also the convenience encourages you to fly higher - a > good thing. All O2 is the same. The process used to make it pretty much > precludes the inclusion of any impurities. Medical O2 just costs more > because of the gov't certifications required. I bought a refilling system > (Mountain High can guide you there) and have a tank in the hangar. Yeah, > it would be good to have two, but it probably isn't worth the hassle, for > me at least. I don't fly that much, but I haven't refilled in 5 years and > I routinely fly above 12,000 feet (usually with only the pilot using from a > MH pulse system). > > 4. Cooling shouldn't be an issue with a naturally aspirated engine, but > it is. Problem is that most of our planes are probably marginally cooled > (mine is) and we usually have a more conservative personal red-line for the > temperature (like 400 instead of 450 or so) than in a certified plane. So, > for instance, I usually climb at an IAS above 120 and that works well. > Until I get above 15,000 feet, and then I have to reduce airspeed closer > to the best-rate speed, Vy. It's that reduced IAS during the climb that > causes the trouble. What to do? No real solution, but I installed cowl > flaps to help out. > > It's fun (and safe) to fly high! > > Gary Casey > Disposable Cat Diapers/Depends for pussies > > http://www.planeturine.com/index.cfm/ID/139 > > > AngierAmes > N4ZQ > Closing in on 100hrs :-) > --20cf301b65e789bce204f29bbe01 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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--Mark

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On Mon, Feb 17, 2014 at 9:08 AM, John C. Bohn <johnb@bohn-tech.com= > wrote:
I have two portable O2 bottles for= sale from my LNC2 days. Excellent condition.=A0

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John C. Bohn
Direct (Cell)=A0+1 503.887.2933
Sent via a smartphone =A0

<= br>-------- Original message --------
From: Lancair Mailing List <lml@lancaironline.net>
Date: 02/17/2014 5:01 AM = (GMT-06:00)
To:
Subject: lml Digest #4523


I did= not know a domestic cat could scream loud enough to hurt it's hearing.= ;)

Jeff

On Feb 14, 2014, at 5:38 PM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote:<= br>
Anything detrimental to the cat is OK. =A0(Allergic)

Dominic V. Crain
Phone 03-94161881
Mobile 0412-359320


Dennis,

While the mental image of your = cat's face in a 200-mph wind may seem hilarious, there might be a bette= r option than super glue. Dramamine is an effective palliative against moti= on sickness. It also happens to be a great sedative, and safe for cats.


--Mark


On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Dennis Ramsey <doramsey@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
Does anyone have any experi= ence transporting a cat in a carrier in their airplane?=A0=A0 I have no kno= wledge as to whether the noise level would be detrimental to a cat?=A0 The = options for the cat are a 3.5 hour car ride in a carrier or a 45 minute pla= ne ride in a carrier.=A0 Would appreciate feedback.

Many interesting and informative = posts about flying high. =A0Here's my 2 cents' worth:
1. =A0I think Bill misspoke when he advo= cated the use of a pressurized mag above 18,000. =A0With a naturally aspira= ted engine the spark plug firing voltage drops as the altitude (and manifol= d pressure) drop, so it is no more likely to cross-fire at altitude than at= sea level. =A0With a turbocharged engine you have a completely different s= tory - pressurizing the mags is almost necessary.

2. =A0Any ignition system that = advances the ignition timing at low manifold pressure will give a significa= nt advantage in power at high altitude - more so as the altitude goes above= even 8,000 feet.. =A0When the altitude gets above maybe 15,000 the advanta= ge becomes huge. =A0Anyone that is planning to fly long distances at high a= ltitude with a naturally aspirated engine would be foolish not to consider = electronic ignition on at least one of the two mags. =A0My thinking is that= electronic ignition on one side is worthwhile from 12,000 to 17,000 and yo= u need it on both sides above 18,000.

3. =A0Filling your O2 bottle from a welding tank is worthwhile in two ways:= =A0It is cheaper, but also the convenience encourages you to fly higher - = a good thing. =A0All O2 is the same. =A0The process used to make it pretty = much precludes the inclusion of any impurities. =A0Medical O2 just costs mo= re because of the gov't certifications required. =A0I bought a refillin= g system (Mountain High can guide you there) and have a tank in the hangar.= =A0Yeah, it would be good to have two, but it probably isn't worth the= hassle, for me at least. =A0I don't fly that much, but I haven't refilled in 5 years and I routinely fly above 12,000 feet (usually with on= ly the pilot using from a MH pulse system).

4. =A0Cooling shouldn't be an is= sue with a naturally aspirated engine, but it is. =A0Problem is that most o= f our planes are probably marginally cooled (mine is) and we usually have a= more conservative personal red-line for the temperature (like 400 instead = of 450 or so) than in a certified plane. =A0So, for instance, I usually cli= mb at an IAS above 120 and that works well. =A0Until I get above 15,000 fee= t, and then I have to reduce airspeed closer to the best-rate speed, Vy. =A0It's that reduce= d IAS during the climb that causes the trouble. =A0What to do? =A0No real s= olution, but I installed cowl flaps to help out.

It's fun (and safe) to fly high!=

Gary Casey
Disposable Cat Diapers/Depends for pussies

http://w= ww.planeturine.com/index.cfm/ID/139


AngierAmes
N4ZQ
Closing in on 100hrs =A0 :-)

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