X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2014 07:53:52 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm30-vm0.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com ([98.139.213.126] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.8) with ESMTPS id 6731745 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:07:47 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.213.126; envelope-from=n20087@yahoo.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=gcom1024; d=yahoo.com; b=e4JKsS9Zb3xn90nPQy3KGYSSQC1xeo6iE8b4fLWCEC7YjymgE6nhyYIKRqyUcoM4HA4dWRCZIouxx2lvDgkueGIeDL3NgDJ80ZUxXO6ol/TiyMSsbosGflGgAAbm1i5E9Emfaoc6re6D670B05HvqrOY4gxA6SJB/GxZX8Dxd8o=; Received: from [98.139.212.149] by nm30.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2014 01:07:13 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.193] by tm6.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2014 01:07:13 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Feb 2014 01:07:13 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 282895.58035.bm@smtp202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: iMHo_jIVM1mvU6TbRhC1vyxcZmTGdHTYWzZctlgu4SF03RP Zc_FgkKT736BdHyc2Rv4GHRV5GiupnHm5Wi1FBmm3NHbiP4NiCrYG4DMJ9dC eyiumpJhy4mSPRfkMjqgaK.IJO0FrXGdyG46L3TZLi7qKbqZAwMKbo1DxLpU rUKstVNHk0W1dZ0uzsteqnKXR6h5_IqpYmyNagTFrudo60PTKs4jNd2NPOdS .0AgtIAR0Q1e8iJiCjhO7pz.6EW83pStKzHZcjHb4kYvIA2.OdBxpXkInQZx iOeCEcpcAdTra9f5TPp5irBA6P833NoyJWVmtMyp405WqdDRfUHXIDna65Ni Fvwo7_ZfcB6lL0R5rKvxbCob8duzJJprtAJQVR0nR5T6WLAjIMC8p1.wBPrM i_5ikGmPqwuPHY3x9gDWsn.y0Lzq8J..pWsOoOn2K5VNZrPOnXrzvLsN_4Sr hbjNagwTU.GRYkcpgDsK2ULrGoo.8hp9zIbmieus1nkbcsRMD2lEGLiOrt53 7zFfnQa.yfDSKsqhnwBerSYKapOEJsIydwGN09xl0avSSjp_mR1Zo04kCNd7 qyYGK.FYFJpa6f_8Evg5PMMNirI09TgtIPuXhICLiFR1kTTVANsprSKa7eYB mOGU2IsYBDmM_jyuzn8F.oWkSL57q8yiFjJtuYQ-- X-Yahoo-SMTP: NQQt3c2swBAKSrExoA1eZuT7_w-- X-Rocket-Received: from [192.168.1.104] (n20087@24.254.187.109 with xymcookie [216.39.61.254]) by smtp202.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Feb 2014 17:07:13 -0800 PST References: Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-BC1DBAF0-F6B8-4A95-A333-0B0C33A93EB5 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Original-Message-Id: X-Original-Cc: "lml@lancaironline.net" X-Mailer: iPad Mail (11B511) From: Tom Subject: Re: [LML] Re: 360 Service ceiling X-Original-Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 20:07:10 -0500 X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List --Apple-Mail-BC1DBAF0-F6B8-4A95-A333-0B0C33A93EB5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have had mine to 17999 with no issue with stability. Also recorded person= al best ground speed of 278kts with an horrendous tailwind at that altitude.= My climb rate was in the 250 range at that altitude. The biggest issue I en= countered was poor engine cooling. Once past 13k in sustained climb the temp= s began to elevate because of higher deck angle and thinner air. Unless you= are built real light I would say the practical ceiling is 15k with o2 of co= urse. My engine at the time ran approx 195hp. =20 Sent from my iPad > On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote: >=20 > Angier, > =20 > A friend with a blue-printed 360 (200 hp?) decided to stop at about FL21 b= ecause aircraft stability became an issue. > =20 > Grayhawk > =20 > PS limiting factors at FL18 is proper O2 mask and supply, instrument fligh= t plan filed, proper transponder, etc............ > =20 > In a message dated 2/13/2014 3:49:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, N4zq@veri= zon.net writes: > What is the practical service ceiling with a 180hp IO360? > Years ago I was told you are there when the rate of climb drops to 100ft/m= in of less. > How high will it go? > Frost bite might be the limiting factor? >=20 >=20 > :-) >=20 > Angier Ames > N4ZQ > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.htm= l --Apple-Mail-BC1DBAF0-F6B8-4A95-A333-0B0C33A93EB5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have had mine to 17999 with no issue with stability.  Also recorded personal best ground speed of 278kts with an horrendous tailwind at that altitude. My climb rate was in the 250 range at that altitude. The biggest issue I encountered was poor engine cooling. Once past 13k in sustained climb the temps began to elevate because of higher deck angle and thinner air.  Unless you are built real light I would say the practical ceiling is 15k with o2 of course. My engine at the time ran approx 195hp.  

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On Feb 13, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote:

Angier,
 
A friend with a blue-printed 360 (200 hp?) decided to stop at about FL21 because aircraft stability became an issue.
 
Grayhawk
 
PS limiting factors at FL18 is proper O2 mask and supply, instrument flight plan filed, proper transponder, etc............
 
In a message dated 2/13/2014 3:49:48 P.M. Central Standard Time, N4zq@verizon.net writes:
What is the practical service ceiling with a 180hp IO360?
Years ago I was told you are there when the rate of climb drops to 100ft/min of less.
How high will it go?
Frost bite might be the limiting factor?


:-)

Angier Ames
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