X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:58:06 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com ([17.158.58.246] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0) with ESMTP id 5954085 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 09:26:02 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.158.58.246; envelope-from=gw5@me.com MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Boundary_(ID_YgKHrrRo/6Hlvk3xirWOcA)" Received: from [10.55.210.255] (unknown [213.187.158.10]) by nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 7u4-26.01(7.0.4.26.0) 64bit (built Jul 13 2012)) with ESMTPSA id <0MF600839IPRM7C0@nk11p08mm-asmtp001.mac.com> for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 14:25:14 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:5.9.8327,1.0.431,0.0.0000 definitions=2012-12-17_03:2012-12-17,2012-12-17,1970-01-01 signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 ipscore=0 suspectscore=0 phishscore=0 bulkscore=0 adultscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=6.0.2-1203120001 definitions=main-1212170110 From: George Wehrung X-Original-Message-id: <1E45ACBB-32F0-4366-A64B-B7228E5BE606@me.com> Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Getting back into the air X-Original-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:55:01 +0430 References: X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-reply-to: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) --Boundary_(ID_YgKHrrRo/6Hlvk3xirWOcA) Content-type: text/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Gary, We also have an ES. Just curious what data are you using/recommend for takeoff and landing performance data? I have heard of some using the cirrus SR22 since it is similar in size/wing design and the IO-550. Thank you George On Dec 17, 2012, at 6:03 PM, Gary Casey wrote: > Just an anecdotal input on the subject: In about 2000, I visited Redmond to get a demo flight in the IVP and ES. I asked the demo pilots (forgot who the IVP pilot was) what they considered to be the shortest "reasonable" runway length for each plane. The replies were 5,000 feet for the IV and 2,500 for the ES. I bought the ES partially for that reason alone. The ES demo pilot later came to his end trying to shoehorn a IVP onto a short, narrow runway. I am happy with the capability of my ES and now fly from a 3800-ft runway at 7,000 feet elevation. Landing isn't a problem but a gross weight takeoff on a warm, no-wind day just isn't possible. > Gary Casey > --Boundary_(ID_YgKHrrRo/6Hlvk3xirWOcA) Content-type: text/html; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable casey.gary@yahoo.com> = wrote:

Just an anecdotal input on the subject: In about = 2000, I visited Redmond to get a demo flight in the IVP and ES. I = asked the demo pilots (forgot who the IVP pilot was) what they = considered to be the shortest "reasonable" runway length for each plane. = The replies were 5,000 feet for the IV and 2,500 for the ES. = I bought the ES partially for that reason alone. The ES demo = pilot later came to his end trying to shoehorn a IVP onto a short, = narrow runway. I am happy with the capability of my ES and now fly = from a 3800-ft runway at 7,000 feet elevation. Landing isn't a = problem but a gross weight takeoff on a warm, no-wind day just isn't = possible.
Gary Casey

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