X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 08:33:48 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm32-vm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.54] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0) with ESMTPS id 5953799 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 07:53:45 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.229.54; envelope-from=casey.gary@yahoo.com Received: from [98.138.90.53] by nm32.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 12:53:12 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.4] by tm6.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 12:53:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Dec 2012 12:53:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 522677.77263.bm@omp1004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 34359 invoked by uid 60001); 17 Dec 2012 12:53:12 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Rocket-MIMEInfo:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NPCtuJP/iAI5JvbiySC0E6crlsI2I/EkuaUK30Q3wjp1doHRiZ9ZC16ooxVRlCawoS4QUB6svst2HshD6o18QCMlSnpQZZnN+Hz7gpiP/ObVyn3szfcVXOPMsY/h8VuqRf73STUJeExKJOLGdAxu4dL/DF5IUOMoS6KxdakoE8c=; X-YMail-OSG: ObO15sUVM1mJ_0B8F_Kl8oIbVitiBW2c551DKAlSGYbW5NN UpmipaOrIJ3eQ7MF0Y_BZEO4.4E5cAlPKJOsYktscU_c7YqAQiV7Mf1h14Ov H9SlG17Gv_D7VhYkGsYcpvwxTBsBCrYqWBTs_84uDxfvXNfQCZXsk7JB7mfe b7e199bRRy9_2YY5pEaZ7ALdgj7XiYBgbEwM1XJnkRKXfIrb2m7johlETpxd M3S6cdiQ4xAf._Ol6HWbV6c2R1hyS6NdLK6b2Y_H.l3gWMZQmUCk2s10VbyU Eb330lwuvzDrQbf.Ns2leug6pGcJJL6O.fEsA5m4diDFw4R19fLIx1rJBaLK II_ODZybBEbtwKqT4K0ecu3eJnEsKI0L51jyfuoAi1Kc7APi4y.gyXbxtnCW QC65rx_TZRxRSolSBmn.UJ7okmY8rGGdENoMKwkN6DyUL9fLYnsaNw0AQvtB NeeYVNjvbXTgfJ4TagLn2uYXIxaJKgtXXvRZwCJ.xiH0y1Ui1OvWU6xbSqUs 6xev7HfVEHIXdQbhKS8Fp0CuR Received: from [71.208.45.221] by web120103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:53:12 PST X-Rocket-MIMEInfo: 001.001,SnVzdCBhbiBhbmVjZG90YWwgaW5wdXQgb24gdGhlIHN1YmplY3Q6IMKgSW4gYWJvdXQgMjAwMCwgSSB2aXNpdGVkIFJlZG1vbmQgdG8gZ2V0IGEgZGVtbyBmbGlnaHQgaW4gdGhlIElWUCBhbmQgRVMuIMKgSSBhc2tlZCB0aGUgZGVtbyBwaWxvdHMgKGZvcmdvdCB3aG8gdGhlIElWUCBwaWxvdCB3YXMpIHdoYXQgdGhleSBjb25zaWRlcmVkIHRvIGJlIHRoZSBzaG9ydGVzdCAicmVhc29uYWJsZSIgcnVud2F5IGxlbmd0aCBmb3IgZWFjaCBwbGFuZS4gwqBUaGUgcmVwbGllcyB3ZXJlIDUsMDAwIGZlZXQgZm9yIHQBMAEBAQE- X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.129.483 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1355748792.33579.YahooMailNeo@web120103.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012 04:53:12 -0800 (PST) From: Gary Casey Reply-To: Gary Casey Subject: Re: Getting back into the air X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-955686164-1413469687-1355748792=:33579" ---955686164-1413469687-1355748792=:33579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just an anecdotal input on the subject: =A0In about 2000, I visited Redmond= to get a demo flight in the IVP and ES. =A0I asked the demo pilots (forgot= who the IVP pilot was) what they considered to be the shortest "reasonable= " runway length for each plane. =A0The replies were 5,000 feet for the IV a= nd 2,500 for the ES. =A0I bought the ES partially for that reason alone. = =A0The ES demo pilot later came to his end trying to shoehorn a IVP onto a = short, narrow runway. =A0I am happy with the capability of my ES and now fl= y from a 3800-ft runway at 7,000 feet elevation. =A0Landing isn't a problem= but a gross weight takeoff on a warm, no-wind day just isn't possible.=0AG= ary Casey=A0=0A ---955686164-1413469687-1355748792=:33579 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just an anecdo= tal input on the subject:  In about 2000, I visited Redmond to get a d= emo flight in the IVP and ES.  I asked the demo pilots (forgot who the= IVP pilot was) what they considered to be the shortest "reasonable" runway= length for each plane.  The replies were 5,000 feet for the IV and 2,= 500 for the ES.  I bought the ES partially for that reason alone. &nbs= p;The ES demo pilot later came to his end trying to shoehorn a IVP onto a s= hort, narrow runway.  I am happy with the capability of my ES and now = fly from a 3800-ft runway at 7,000 feet elevation.  Landing isn't a pr= oblem but a gross weight takeoff on a warm, no-wind day just isn't possible= .
Gary Casey 

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