X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2012 11:28:21 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0c3) with ESMTP id 5924573 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:13:30 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.70; envelope-from=colyncase@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=hRFlRXiFtPoKDqQdmaUx2F59Qj2h9tx12ExcLsfXvAk2bvfvJ1j6aHdSsYpbET+W; h=Received:Content-Type:Mime-Version:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:References:To:X-Mailer:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [64.222.107.103] (helo=[192.168.1.24]) by elasmtp-banded.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1TgGef-0003Uu-Gl for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 10:12:57 -0500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Subject: Re: [LML] Re: L-IV Engine out Practise- From: Colyn Case In-Reply-To: X-Original-Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 10:13:10 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Message-Id: References: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-ELNK-Trace: 63d5d3452847f8b1d6dd28457998182d7e972de0d01da940cdd8ecb06049e201d3847ff4542634df350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 64.222.107.103 Hi Jeff, Do you know your flaps down/gear down numbers? I seem to remember something over 1700' fpm @120 On Dec 5, 2012, at 7:52 AM, jeffrey liegner wrote: I have turned my LIVP engine off and practiced glides. At 120 kts with = half tanks and two pilots, AND a full feathered prop, my sink rate is = 550-600 fpm. I can easily reproduce the performance of an engine shut = down with the engine running nicely, a flat pitch prop at 2500 rpm, and = 10.5" MAP. =20 600 fpm is glide ratio of 20:1 I note my one mile final configuration is 2500 RPM and 11.5" MAP and 120 = KIAS, very close to engine out (clean config) glide (not quite, but = close). This fact gives me some comfort regarding proximity to the = airport and back up plan if engine quit (even though it's not truly = protective).=20 Jeff L LIVP From: "William A. Hogarty" Subject: L-IV Engine out Practise- Date: December 4, 2012 2:32:36 PM EST To: lml@lancaironline.net Would those brave souls who have practised "actual" engine out maneuvers = in the IV please let me know what rate of descent vs fuel weight that they have = experienced in the pattern. Also pattern altitude if much higher than sea level. (My wife wont let me shut the engine down with the gear retracted--DRAT) I have been using speed brakes and 800 RPM with prop full forward at 120 = kts. and I usually practise with less than 50 gal fuel. Would like to get my rate of descent close to actual. Help would be appreciated. Regards, Bill Hogarty -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html