X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 12:16:51 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from nm6-vm0.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com ([98.139.91.206] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.4.3) with SMTP id 5360965 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 09:18:03 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.139.91.206; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: from [98.139.91.69] by nm6.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2012 14:17:28 -0000 Received: from [98.139.91.52] by tm9.bullet.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2012 14:17:28 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1052.mail.sp2.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 23 Jan 2012 14:17:28 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 386698.75390.bm@omp1052.mail.sp2.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 4360 invoked by uid 60001); 23 Jan 2012 14:17:27 -0000 DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Message-ID:Date:From:Reply-To:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=X4cPH65p/t7K5FVRiq/Og0NRSMsV0GBweXFFDIwRrjQpXdpAmze46QUreHtf0jAT2WXpzMyTmq/AoUMeXyWXuYMwO/eWSyC1w5s/kKB7w7FmghoF9afFNemNIkqQLJlxnDdNodTJ1tRAdAsUZcN+aDKIxwvh7mfLIiBM/Q9+Exk=; X-YMail-OSG: PF8GONkVM1ngUN8Y1aQ3si_yTEUqytqQKlfILGHLqpBhexY YmlvkO4XgOgCvbgYoUajQTtBEdcBnH7Gm9nE7iJ8iInizVE4z4JloXjmiDYg 7r2lAaYgfHv579aSqDF8u4EgH6KRKYb2yopDlJNUvvBL96CXWVTXJLED7jnl MUbVYvShT6znEXJyvKuiVud6YCx4IudyfzuMB2yMtgpuzZ4fupkWA20vJ6yk GSu85MWx7F3RIUYXMa.AkBoZZvFzPW97M7g6vhj3vjLj6__.fAR6LR_rGkSd ikAgwmWzrtUL_0iNLRSXCuWZ3jO6ItUMCsa45uTLGLA.ixj6Z8zEmw._G9qh E8BXAGRkQEsPhShNpGEh3H1NtrNbse5KDoAVgLRbEpUwJzuc3R4SDv3PdZOT iqlguEC3CWdEv5ODq7GVlsRtQpsGdAO10XrEmqp.cGSLH_XGFoMsQJMCAzle SYIwr Received: from [76.8.220.20] by web111409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 23 Jan 2012 06:17:27 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.116.331537 References: X-Original-Message-ID: <1327328247.93681.YahooMailNeo@web111409.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2012 06:17:27 -0800 (PST) From: randy snarr Reply-To: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] Glareshield Fabric Melt Test- Update X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-999890633-570027545-1327328247=:93681" ---999890633-570027545-1327328247=:93681 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I =C2=A0went through this same scenario a year or so ago. After my 3rd rece= iving of the dust cover from burn marks I decided to so something about it.= I tested a bunch of material and did not find one that did not mark with a= magnifying glass.=C2=A0=0AI ended up making patches out of carbon fiber an= d painted them black with high temp flat black paint.=0A=0ASearch the archi= ve for my write up a while back. All the details are there.=0A=0AI have no = marks on my dust cover any more and there have been several instances where= that would have happened since if I had not installed the carbon fiber pat= ches...=0A=0ABest=0ARandy Snarr=0AN694RS=0A=C2=A0=0A"Flight by machines hea= vier than air is unpractical and insignificant, if not utterly impossible"= =0A-Simon Newcomb, 1902=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: S= teve Colwell =0ATo: lml@lancaironline.net =0ASent: Mo= nday, January 23, 2012 5:50 AM=0ASubject: [LML] Glareshield Fabric Melt Tes= t- Update=0A =0A=0AClark,=0A=C2=A0=0AA better test for materials would be a= magnifying glass.=C2=A0 The tilt up canopy=E2=80=99s act just like one whe= n the sun is behind them at the wrong angle.=C2=A0 =0AYou might try Flat Bl= ack VHT rattle can paint (for auto headers) on a scrap of fiberglass.=C2=A0= If that works, you could test plot the area that gets the hot spots (in a = Legacy it is the forward half of the dust cover).=C2=A0=C2=A0 Then stop the= fabric before it gets to the hot spot area.=C2=A0 =0AWe are using Ultrasue= de and don=E2=80=99t have a burn spot yet but it is fading to dark grey eve= n though we are very careful to cover it anytime we are not flying.=C2=A0 = =0AA fabric that might work is thin Microfleece.=C2=A0 Black is non-glare a= nd it is stretchy and cheap enough to replace easily.=C2=A0 Test it for fla= mmability! =0A=C2=A0=0ASteve Colwell ---999890633-570027545-1327328247=:93681 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I  we= nt through this same scenario a year or so ago. After my 3rd receiving of t= he dust cover from burn marks I decided to so something about it. I tested = a bunch of material and did not find one that did not mark with a magnifyin= g glass. 
I ended up making patches out of carb= on fiber and painted them black with high temp flat black paint.

Search the archive for my write up a while back. All = the details are there.

I have no marks on my dust cover any m= ore and there have been several instances where that would have happened si= nce if I had not installed the carbon fiber patches...

Best
Randy Snarr
N694RS
 
"Flight by machines heavier than air is unpractical and insignificant, if not utterly impossible"
-Simon= Newcomb, 1902
From: Steve Colwell <mcmess1919@yahoo.com><= br> To: lml@lancaironline.= net
Sent: Monday, Jan= uary 23, 2012 5:50 AM
Subject: [LML] Glareshield Fabric Melt Test- Update

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Clark,=
 
A better test for materia= ls would be a magnifying glass.  The tilt up canopy=E2=80=99s act just= like one when the sun is behind them at the wrong angle. 
You might try Flat Black VH= T rattle can paint (for auto headers) on a scrap of fiberglass.  If th= at works, you could test plot the area that gets the hot spots (in a Legacy= it is the forward half of the dust cover).   Then stop the fabric before it gets to the hot spot area. 
We are using Ultrasuede an= d don=E2=80=99t have a burn spot yet but it is fading to dark grey even tho= ugh we are very careful to cover it anytime we are not flying. 
A fabric that might wo= rk is thin Microfleece.  Black is non-glare and it is stretchy and che= ap enough to replace easily.  Test it for flammability!
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Steve Colwell
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