Return-Path: Received: from sphmgaaf.compuserve.com ([149.174.177.155]) by ns1.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Fri, 19 May 2000 06:48:24 -0400 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by sphmgaaf.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id GAA28240 for lancair.list@olsusa.com; Fri, 19 May 2000 06:54:21 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 06:54:03 -0400 From: Dr Michael A Fopp <70734.101@compuserve.com> Subject: Re: lancair.list V1 #35 - CG Problems Sender: Dr Michael A Fopp <70734.101@compuserve.com> To: "lancair.list@olsusa.com" Message-ID: <200005190654_MC2-A59F-FD99@compuserve.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Hi Every one! As many of you know I have built a Lancair with both the long and the short engine mounts so I have data on both. If you place the hydraulic power pack behind the baggage bulkhead you are in for trouble. The best place for it is behind the passenger seat and I posted photos of such an installation a few years ago but can send new ones if it helps. The variable is the battery and this can be placed in a number of positions forward of the cg and (in my case) behind the left seat - photos also available. The larger tail affects the cg quite considerably and if you have this and the short engine mount (as I did first time round) you MUST move the pump as above. Retrofitting the longer engine mount is not difficult but is a real chore. It took me about 200 hours and I will write up something about my repairs for LNN when I have time. The problem is the really bad mouldings that Lancair use for the cowlings. The first time was bad enough but to get another, longer set, and find that they had merely extended the original aberrations was a bit of a pain. In my case I had real cooling problems with the short mount and cowlings so I made some changes to the new cowlings. The change in cg announced by Lancair last year (bringing it forward to 11% MAC) mean that I have a comfortable cg range which is impossible to breach at the aft end unless you overload the baggage/hatshelf areas. It is possible to get it too far forward with a light pilot and full header/empty wings - an unlikely event. I have employed a professional Test Pilot to carry out 5 hours of testing on my 320. He is entirely satisfied with its handling at MTOW of 1785 lbs and fully aft cg. However, he would not approve it under FAR23 for IFR because of a particular trait which I don't yet understand. I will report more fully on the testing, particularly of the extended wingtips when I have time. The cg issue is something to sort during the building process and, because of my regular visits to Australia (where they have done extensive professional testing of the type) I was aware of the gear pump location problem from the beginning. I would recommend ALL builders to move the pump to behind the seat, open up a panel in the seatback and thus make it better for the cg and for installation/maintenance. In my case the battery was good behind the other seat and if I had put it further forward I would have had to move it back when the longer mount went on. If you can, fit the longer mount. The aircraft looks sweeter, handles better, has less cg problems, engine cools better, exhaust pipes are 3" away from the underside, and there is much more room to work on the engine accessory case. The downside is, in my case, the top cowling fouled the top of the mount and I had to put a "power bulge" in it, the air intake holes are still not symmetrical so you have to cut one of them away and re-fit it and the airscoop retrofit is a real pain because Lancair produce it out of different, thinner, material. Finally, the new nose leg (self centering etc) is a dream and I have not had any sign of shimmy. If you have not had your's serviced by the factory for a couple of years, send it back at the first opportunity for all the mods to be incorporated. I have almost finished the 5 hours of testing with the Test Pilot and should start my own Lancair trips shortly. Regrettably my nose gear incident last year has cost me my trans-atlantic expedition to invade the USA in 2000, so I will not be over with G-FOPP this year. Michael Dr Michael A Fopp michael_fopp@compuserve.com Signed at 11:51 on 19-May-00 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html LML Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>