Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 22:24:40 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail.indian-creek.net ([209.176.40.9] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.2b3) with ESMTP id 3236182 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 16 May 2004 21:48:28 -0400 Received: from VAIO (sl6.du.indian-creek.net [209.176.40.22] toucan@78055.com) by mail.indian-creek.net with SMTP (IOA-IPAD 4.02) id 5W8QK00 for ; Sun, 16 May 2004 20:48:24 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <004701c43bb1$09e24350$1628b0d1@VAIO> From: "Jim Cameron" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Stalls and spins and related training X-Original-Date: Sun, 16 May 2004 20:48:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01C43B87.1FD65360" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2739.300 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C43B87.1FD65360 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Just returned from a most entertaining and educational weekend in = New Braunfels, TX. This followed on a couple of days at my home base in = Kerrville (ERV) with Pete Zaccagnino, inspecting and conducting first = flights of my Legacy, N121J. The New Braunfels event was the EAA's SW = Regional Fly-In. Earlier in the week it looked as the whole thing would = be a no-show, what with our weird monsoon season extending itself. By = Friday, however, things were turning very nice after passage of a dry = cold front, and by Saturday morning, every weekend flyer in the area = apparently decided to buzz New Braunfels and have a look. Lesson 1: With all those planes and (maybe rusty?) flyers = converging on a single runway, even the temporary tower didn't help much = in avoiding near-complete chaos. Out for an early morning training = sesson with Pete, we spent over half an hour trying to get back on the = ground. Three different times we were put on downwind, then forgotten. = Meanwhile, there are 45-knot jennies wandering around the = high-performance approach area, people asking on the radio "What outlet = mall? What water tower?" and so on. Fortunately, we managed to get = back on the ground before Pete's blood pressure red-lined. Mebbe the = tower folks were trainees, and a lot of the arriving pilots needed to = be. Pete, Dave Hickman, and the rest of the H.P.A.T. gang held an = all-day ground school today. Fun and educational. Recommended. On the subject of spins and stalls: None of these experimental = birds have been spin tested, so if you insist, remember that you're = going to ". . . boldly go where no man . . . (or woman) . . .etc." = Sure, nine times out of ten they might behave themselves, stall straight = ahead with a nod or a bob, but on that tenth time, you know, the time = you let that ball wander just a teeny bit -- bang! You're on your back = and spinning earthward. Pete made a point today that he doesn't teach = stalls, but he does teach stall recovery. A subtle difference, maybe, = but the point was taken. And oh, yeah, the Legacy is a rocket. Whoooeee! Jim Cameron ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01C43B87.1FD65360 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
    Just returned from a = most=20 entertaining and educational weekend in New Braunfels, TX.  This = followed=20 on a couple of days at my home base in Kerrville (ERV) with Pete = Zaccagnino,=20 inspecting and conducting first flights of my Legacy, N121J.  = The New=20 Braunfels event was the EAA's SW Regional Fly-In.  Earlier in the = week it=20 looked as the whole thing would be a no-show, what with our weird = monsoon season=20 extending itself.  By Friday, however, things were turning very = nice after=20 passage of a dry cold front, and by Saturday morning, every weekend = flyer in the=20 area apparently decided to buzz New Braunfels and have a = look.
 
    Lesson 1:  With = all those=20 planes and (maybe rusty?) flyers converging on a single runway, even the = temporary tower didn't help much in avoiding near-complete chaos.  = Out for=20 an early morning training sesson with Pete, we spent over half an hour = trying to=20 get back on the ground.  Three different times we were put on = downwind,=20 then forgotten.  Meanwhile, there are 45-knot jennies wandering = around the=20 high-performance approach area, people asking on the radio "What outlet=20 mall?  What water tower?" and so on.  Fortunately, we managed = to get=20 back on the ground before Pete's blood pressure red-lined.  Mebbe = the tower=20 folks were trainees, and a lot of the arriving pilots needed to = be.
 
    Pete, Dave Hickman, = and the rest=20 of the H.P.A.T. gang held an all-day ground school today.  Fun and=20 educational.  Recommended.
 
    On the subject of = spins and=20 stalls:  None of these experimental birds have been spin tested, so = if you=20 insist, remember that you're going to ". . . boldly go where no man . . = . (or=20 woman) . . .etc."   Sure, nine times out of ten they = might behave=20 themselves, stall straight ahead with a nod or a bob, but on that tenth = time,=20 you know, the time you let that ball wander just a teeny bit  --=20 bang!  You're on your back and spinning earthward.  Pete made = a point=20 today that he doesn't teach stalls, but he does teach stall = recovery.  A=20 subtle difference, maybe, but the point was taken.
 
    And oh, yeah, the = Legacy is a=20 rocket.  Whoooeee!
 
Jim Cameron
 
 
 
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