Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 08:31:55 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta11.adelphia.net ([64.8.50.205] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1.1) with ESMTP id 2532939 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 08:23:36 -0400 Received: from worldwinds ([207.175.254.66]) by mta11.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.05.32 201-253-122-126-132-20030307) with SMTP id <20030819122336.IATP7060.mta11.adelphia.net@worldwinds> for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2003 08:23:36 -0400 From: "Gary Casey" X-Original-To: "lancair list" Subject: autogas X-Original-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 05:22:41 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 <<1) The engine had a slightly greater tendency to collect carburetor ice. 2) When leaning the mixture, the "peak" was "softer". Since I had no EGT gauge I just went by leaning to peak RPM and then enrichening slightly. On Avgas the peak was "sharper", i.e., little extra leaning caused the rapid dropoff in RPM. On Autogas it was "softer" and the actual peak was slightly harder to discern. 3) I used to run ARCO-brand gas, until one of my friends chastized me about "that cheap crappy gas that he wouldn't even put in his car". I then switched to Exxon. With sufficient effort I could almost imagine that the Exxon gas ran slightly smoother. - Rob Wolf>> These characteristics are likely all a result of the higher vapor pressure of autogas. The increased tendency for icing would be because more of the fuel evaporates sooner, reducing the temperature of the mixture in the carburetor throat. A "softer peak" could be a result of improved mixture preparation, again because more of the fuel is vapor in the intake manifold. This would improve the ability to run lean and delay the onset of roughness. If the actual peak EGT was rounded off, that would contradict this. I would think that the 320/360 with its header tank would be appropriate for autogas. As I understand it, the real issue the FAA had with the fuel is not in the engine at all, but related to the fuel delivery system and its resistance to vapor lock. The Cessna 150, with its high wing and gravity feed, is almost impossible to vapor lock. Low wings planes would be most susceptible, but the header tank takes most of the problem away - at least that's what I would think. A low-wing plane without a header would be a completely different thing. This may be just folklore, but many years ago I was told that of the major brands only Mobil owned their own refineries and pipelines. All the other companies shared both and just added their proprietary additives at distribution. Supposedly Mobil fuel was more consistent. At Mercury Marine we also found that engines run on Mobil would last longer at high power settings because there would be less carbon and varnish buildup in the engine. Since then I have favored Mobil when given a choice. For what its worth. Gary Casey