Return-Path: Received: from [65.33.164.170] (account ) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WebUser 4.1.1) with HTTP id 2524076 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:11:26 -0400 From: "Marvin Kaye" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LNC2 bird strike [ skydiver strike] To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser Interface v.4.1.1 Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 17:11:26 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <002101c3636d$70ca7f50$8200a8c0@Jarrett> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for "JJ JOHNSON" : Hey Jeff, just as an addition to this subject. I had the experiance once of losing a jumper due to early deployment off a 182 I was flying[this happened like 4 yrs ago]. The jumper went straight back and hit the tail. I kicked rudder as soon as I saw his bag drop from his container. His left ankle hit the outter end of the stab about 2.5"-3" in from the end. When I finally got the thing down, the damage was pretty extensive, totaled the h-stab and bent the tail section of the 182. I was going ~ 85mph when he left and even if he drop'd half that speed and hit the tail at 40ish mph [difference in speed] w/ only his ankle... it just goes to show how much damage can come from so little. The crazy thing was that all he lost was his shoe[ no broken bones], and jumped again later that day![Damage= Jumper $30; Jump plane ~$50,000] I had all the rest of the jumpers leave as soon as it happened and then took my seat belt off as I was ready to jump as well. Things were really wobbling around back there. When I decided I could maintain control [ just checked by using mininum movement of the yoke for both roll and pitch] I stayed at the 85 mph and didn't use any flaps or trim to land [the 182 has a full moving stab] and tried to be as gentle as I could. Anyway this is kind of different from a bird but goes to show how so little can do so much. [ maybe a divers `ankle' isn't .. so little, I dunno] Jarrett Johnson 235/320