Return-Path: Sender: (Marvin Kaye) To: lml Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 10:35:22 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 4.1) with ESMTP id 2513705 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 06 Aug 2003 19:22:42 -0400 Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v36_r1.1.) id q.1ce.ef1360c (3964) for ; Wed, 6 Aug 2003 19:22:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: <1ce.ef1360c.2c62e7bd@aol.com> X-Original-Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 19:22:37 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Las Vegas accident X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1060212157" X-Mailer: 9.0 for Windows sub 570 -------------------------------1060212157 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/6/2003 11:36:17 AM Central Daylight Time, Billhogarty@aol.com writes: It is my understanding that the Heavy designation is assigned by weight only. I dont believe that these "grayhound bus charter flights" are designated as "heavy" and therefore the 3 minute delay requirement does not apply; although its beginning to sound like a pretty reasonable requirement to apply when departing behind any large aircraft. Appreciate your interest. thanks, Bill Hogarty Bill, You are wrong. Read the AIM. Heavy= no waiver ever never by no one, not even God. Large (over 12,500 pounds) ONLY the PILOT can Waive the 3 minutes -- NOT the tower. I want everyone to understand this - Let's not have a repeat IF the tower request came before 3 minutes. Otherwise, we must learn that rules are the MINIMUM requirement. Feel uncomfortable, don't do it. Scott Krueger Sky2high@aol.com LNC2 N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR) -------------------------------1060212157 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 8/6/2003 11:36:17 AM Central Daylight Time, Billhoga= rty@aol.com writes:

It is my understanding=20= that the Heavy designation is assigned by weight only. I dont believe=20= that these "grayhound bus charter flights" are designated as "heavy" a= nd therefore the 3 minute delay requirement does not apply; although i= ts beginning to sound like a pretty reasonable requirement to apply when dep= arting behind any large aircraft.

Appreciate your interest.&nb= sp; thanks, Bill Hogarty

Bill,

You are wrong. Read the AIM. Heavy=3D no waiver ever never=20= by no one, not even God.

Large (over 12,500 pounds) ONLY the PILOT can Waive the 3 minutes -- NO= T the tower.

I want everyone to understand this - Let's not have a repeat IF the tow= er request came before 3 minutes. Otherwise, we must learn that rules=20= are the MINIMUM requirement. Feel uncomfortable, don't do it.

Scott Krueger
Sky2high@aol.com
LNC2 N92EX IO320 Aurora, IL (KARR)

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